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    Question Is this cheating?






    I'm doin incline DB presses...I had my spotter help me get them in the air to start my reps...after their in the air, I dont need his help pressing...Is that cheating?
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    No, not IMO. It is called a "lift off." Though I don't use them, I see no reason for this to be cheating.

    Do they help you put the plates on too? That is not cheating either.
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    I find if I go really heavy I too need to get the first rep started at times,then I`m good to go.I don`t count the rep I got help with,since I didn`t do it.

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    It's not cheating to me. I sometimes use 50 to 55lbs, there is no way in hell I can get them up without Craig's help. Once they are up, its all me.

    Hehe...Craig usually loads the plates for me too. I just sit there and whin til then.
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    ok thats all good to know..u guys are the best
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    it's not cheating, however I do believe that if you cannot position the weight on your own maybe it's too heavy.

    I work-out alone and I can get my self into incline dumbbell position on my own with 100lb dumbbells.





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    I do the exact same thing, man, just because I don't want to waste my energy getting those sons of bitches off the ground lol. I'd rather use it all on some forced reps. This is what (in most casses) spotters are for - to help you with the weight so you get an overall better workout. This isn't cheating at all because it has nothing to do with your reps, and if it was who cares? As long as you're getting a good workout.
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    old school bodybuilders would say pick that shit up yourself.





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    They are the ones who taught me to do lift offs!
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    good point, but im hardly old school
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    hmmm...I will have to watch Pumping Iron again and pay attention to this, cause I do not remember anyone giving lift offs.





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    I don't remember watching any of them max either....but it has been a long time, I was quite young. Who taught you how to lift? My "old school" mentor showed what I think of as good advice, ie only give as much assistance as necessary to safely get the weight into position. NOT lift it for them and drop it when it gets there. Guess I learned wrong.
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    Oh, I'm pretty sure they go all out in Pumping Iron

    I think you should lift it yourself, why can't you do it?

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    Re: Is this cheating?

    Originally posted by Wannabefit
    I'm doin incline DB presses...I had my spotter help me get them in the air to start my reps...after their in the air, I dont need his help pressing...Is that cheating?


    it really don't matter if its cheating or not, theres nothing wrong with it.... i mean u either do that, or you lift lighter weights, its your prefrence

    its like moving your shoulders slightly to get out the last few reps, that is cheating, but every rep rips the muscle deeper, so its smart cheating

    if your benefiting from lift offs keep doing it, we all give each other lift offs on the bench press at the gym i go to

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    Originally posted by Mex
    Oh, I'm pretty sure they go all out in Pumping Iron

    I think you should lift it yourself, why can't you do it?
    I don't generally take them but if I am maxing out, I might.

    You probably never push yourself enough to need it, do you.
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    Yeah, I pushed myself hard enough a few years ago, and fucked up my back. Good enough for you?

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    Whoops, sorry to hear that, man.

    I personnally don't use lift-offs unless I am doing enough that it doesn't feel safe to get into position. Decline DB bench is one lift that I think would be easy to injure something trying to get a lot of weight into position.
    Still losing fat and gaining muscle. Man, feels like it takes for ever to get lean again and the strength doesn't come back over night.

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