Originally posted by ShadowJack
Personally, for females to use on their hips/butt/thighs, I would recommend starting out with (original) Lipoderm-Y. It has excellent feedback from females using it on these areas (lower body). I would even say, that of all the feedback (both males and females alike) applying to any/all areas for fat reduction, that Lipoderm-Y has shown to be the most effective used there. It is (by far) the least expensive of the three formulas, as Mike still has the 4oz. bottles selling at a price of $20.99. Though he did say a couple weeks ago (over at M&M) that the price would increase soon after he returned from the Arnold (which is right now). One negative of Lipoderm-Y usage is that Yohimbine-hcl (the active ingredient) will cause you to retain water in the applied area. Because of this, it is more difficult to judge your progress while using it, so you should continue with your diet for at least a week (in order for the water retention to subside) after finishing your bottle of Lipo-Y (and two weeks would be even better, IMO). That way, you will be more able to accurately judge your results.
Lipoderm-ULTRA is the next generation of the original Lipoderm formula. Think of it as the improved version. It includes 7 extra ingredients, in addition to Y-hcl, and by all rights, will be better at spot reduction than the original version. One of the added benefits of Lipo-ULTRA, due to the added ingredients, is that it will not cause you to retain water (at least as much). From Par's write-up:
With that said about Lipoderm-ULTRA, I would still recommend Lipoderm-Y for a woman to use on her lower body. At least if you have never used either one before, and this will be your first bottle. Although Lipoderm-ULTRA is an improvement over the original, it costs more (~$34 per 4oz. bottle), and the original does have a great history of feedback by women using it on their lower bodies. So I would start with that, and if you do not see the results you were hoping for, than try using ULTRA for your 2nd bottle.
Lipoderm-ODB is like the 1st version of Lipoderm-ULTRA. It is a permanent Beta product, and is only available directly from Avant. ODB contains all 8 of the ingredients that ULTRA contains plus three more in addition: Green Tea Extract, Tyramine, and NAC. It is very similar to the 1st Beta versions of Lipoderm-ULTRA which Par had tested, and is prolly what the formula for ULTRA would have (finally) become as a retail product, except that it stains clothing (and skin), as mentioned above. Although it is the most effective of all three of the Lipoderm formulas, because of the staining problem and the higher price (unless you purchase 3 bottles at a time), most people have just used ULTRA instead of ODB.
One thing I would like to add is that your results when using any of the three Lipoderm products will greatly depend upon your diet and exercise program. I can not stress enough that it is exceptionally important for you to create a caloric deficit thru diet or cardio (and preferentially, both). This is most important when using the original Lipoderm-Y formula, as Y-hcl does not "burn" fat, it just releases the fat from the "problem" areas that you apply it to. You still rely on your own (created) caloric deficit to "burn" the fat initially, otherwise the released fat (from the Y-hcl) could just be re-deposited. This is prolly less of an issue when using either ULTRA (with 8 total ingredients) or ODB (with 11 total ingredients), as they both contain an additional "number of ancillary fat-fighting ingredients that decrease nutrient uptake and insulin sensitivity in the fat cell." Still, I would recommend creating a significant caloric deficit in order to see best results.