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    I was just watching Dr Phil and while I didn't see the beginning I saw the middle and end of a segment on a girl addicted to ephedrine who he said was on the verge of death and had to go into rehab etc etc. I am not sure if she was on other drugs, I know alcohol was involved, but they labeled her as an ephedrine addict..

    To me it just seemed a little far-stretched, anybody have any opinions? Anybody see the beginning, maybe I missed something?

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    Uh oh...I'm about to get flamed here Im sure, but I DEFINITELY think this is possible. Ephedra has been compared to amphetamines in many studies. I was on it (Dymetadrine Extreme) for 6-8 months and coming off it was HELL. I think actually becoming "addicted" to it would depend on the users personality. Some have addictive personalities and get hooked easier than others. Upping your caffeine intake when you go off seems to help a lot of people.
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    The problem is that eventually your body builds up a tolerance to epherdine, so I don't necessarily think you can become addicted. I suppose if that happens you could take more, but I would have a hard time seeing someone take in 100mg of ephedrine in one shot.

    I know it's just semantics, but Ephedrine has been banned for many years, she must have been referring to ephedra.
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    You can get addicted to everything, most of it is a problem with your mind.

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    If you go through withdrawals when you go off it, wouldnt that indicate that you have some form of dependance though? I felt like ASS when I stopped using it.
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    Originally posted by Var
    If you go through withdrawals when you go off it, wouldnt that indicate that you have some form of dependance though? I felt like ASS when I stopped using it.

    I don't know how it goes to be honest. You definitely feel like ass when you come off, but how can you be addicted to something that eventually has no effect. I bet if I saw the show it would help.

    EDIT: I look at it this way. I am addicted to masturbation. If I no longer got the feeling at the end, I would stop. Luckily for me that doesn't happen.

    I guess if you take it to avoid the withdrawal symptoms then that is the same as addiction.
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    Originally posted by Dale Mabry
    I don't know how it goes to be honest. You definitely feel like ass when you come off, but how can you be addicted to something that eventually has no effect. I bet if I saw the show it would help.

    EDIT: I look at it this way. I amddicted to masturbation. If I no longer got the feeling at the end, I would stop. Luckily for me that doesn't happen.
    Being a chronic masturbator myself, I can see some flaws in your example. When you stop ephedra, its still effecting you, even if you arent getting an energy boost. When you stop taking it, you feel very lethargic, get headaches, etc... This is all anectodal info on my part, but it seems like a dependence to me. I could be wrong.

    EDIT: I didnt see the show either. Just trying to avoid going back to work.
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    Ephedrine is banned? I bought some at CVS.. am I a criminal

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    CVS pulled all ephedra months ago. I know ephedrine hcl is still going to be legal, but I didnt think cvs carried it. Are you sure it was CVS?
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    Yes, goodness, I'm not stupid.

    Just gotta know where to look.

    http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gatewa...hedrine+asthma

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    Ah...asthma meds. Is this what you've been using for your EC stack???
    But when you disarm them, you at once offend them by showing that you distrust them, either for cowardice or for want of loyalty, and either of these opinions breeds hatred against you.

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    this is nonsense, they are just trying to dramatise up the supp since everyone has made it the evil flavor of the month. Addicted to ephedrine, Please........ please..... thats nonsense. First of all, addiction means that your use of the substance continues despite facing serious consequences. I have been using ephedra for almost three years, almost nonstop, for my WOs and am I dependent, probably, but ephedrine is not going to be the reason for someone entering outpatient or ruining their life. I guarantee there was other substance abuse before, and there will be after. The ephedrine was just drop in the pond so to speak. I can speak from personal experience when I say that have used more of the shit than probably anyone here, and as much of the supp as I have gone through, it has never posed a problem in my life at all, and I know I am an addict in general. this is a bunch of nonsense that someone would be on the verge of DEATH b/c of it, unless there were heart problems to begin with.

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    I am also heavily dependent on chicken breasts I go through 3 to 4 packs a week.
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    ha ha ha^^^ well in that case I have lots of problems for gods sake!!!

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