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    1ad first cycle , this sound about right?

    gonna take 400mg 1ad (2caps in the morning, 2caps in the evening) ED, 600mg 4ad ED (1 cap in the am , 1 cap in the pm), 4 weeks . pct 6oxo , for 3 weeks, 600 mg ED( 1cap am, 1cap pm) then 300 ed for week 2 and 100mg ed for week 1 and and then nolvadex tamoxifen , 40 mgs a day incase of the dreaded gyno, and continue the dose til symptons subside, and 10mg until the end of the cycle (incase gyno appears) . and of course keep the nutrition up and such. should marimidex be factored in? ...... but whatcha think of that plan , sound ok?oxifen

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    I am certainly not an expert, but I would divide my dosage out through out the day to keep test levels even. So, I'd take one with 4 of your meals.
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    As the bioavailablity of oral 1-AD/4-AD is low I would increase the dose to 900mg ED. If you were using a transdermal you'd be able to decrease the dose.

    As for PCT all you really need IMO is Nolvadex, I wouldn't bother with the 6-OXO.

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    ahh i see, oh ya and i forgot to put that its all pills, so i should prolly increase the dosage a bit on the 2 - 4th week and see how the body responds to it..

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    1-AD/4-AD is a solid stack. Let us know how it's going on cycle. Good luck.

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    will do, having started it yet, still waiting on a couple things to come in mail, i dont wanna start it til i have all that i need on hand :P

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    one more question, does the fact that my body fat % is 17, pose a problem? like does increase the chances of gyno or does it pose any other problems?

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    redspy, when u said up it to 900mg , do u mean on both? or just the 4ad cuz of its low oral business?

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    hmm on second thought , im gonna go with the 4derm (transdermal ) over the caps , may work better

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    Good choice on the 4-Derm. That's what I used on my last cycle, it really helped to keep my energy levels and libido up (I was stacking with Nordiol). Regarding dose of 1-AD try 600 and if you feel you need more up to 900mg - I know that can be expensive with Ergopharm's product.

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    ill keep that in mind, kinda anxious to get this started but im still waiting on the nolva..... tick tock tick tock

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    Good choice with the transdermal 4-AD. If you dread Gyno so much, just do enough 4-AD to offset the 1-AD lethergy, not the 8-12 sprays a day the bottle suggests. 300mg 1-AD worked great for me, but I am only 150 lbs. Sides suck, but should be offset with 4-AD. Spread your 1-AD more evenly throughout the day. If you haven't taken it before, take it with food. Your PCT sounds confusing. I'd go with:

    6OXO
    Week 1 – 600mg daily in two divided doses, morning and night
    Week 2-3 – 400mg daily
    Week 4 – 300mg daily

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    Nolvadex
    Week 1-2 – 40mg daily
    Week 2-4 – 20mg daily

    as recommended at http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...ad.php?t=27368 on this forum.

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    still debating on what i want to do for the pct, either just nolva or 6oxo, i read somewhere on a post that it makes ur skin super oily, and im gonna be very acne prown as it is, so i may just try and see how the nolva will do for pct,

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    I've seen a lot of complaints about 6-OXO causing acne. I've used it in the past and it had no such effects. If you're prone to it you might should consider Nolva alone.

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    ahh i see, thanks for the advice RS, i think i got my plans all layed out

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    acutally , anyone know where i can buy nolva.. havin some trouble finding it , anyone know some websites by chance?

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    ahhhh i see, the second one seems to be a much better deal than all the ones i found, 1 bottle should do the trick, and for 25 bucks, that saves a lil bit of moneys ..... thanks RS

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    Hey redspy, why suggest the liquid instead of the tabs? And I concur, 6-oxo will give you acne if you don't wash your face three times with something very drying. I used Salicylic acid 2%, and had no acne. This is a common face wash.

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    thanks for the advice guys,

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
    Hey redspy, why suggest the liquid instead of the tabs? And I concur, 6-oxo will give you acne if you don't wash your face three times with something very drying. I used Salicylic acid 2%, and had no acne. This is a common face wash.
    From my experience the liquid stuff seems both easier to find and cheaper. The research companies I use sponsor other forums and have received good feedback from users. If you have a tablet source I'd be interested so I could do a comparison. $25 for 50ml (20mg/ml) seems a good deal.

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    alrighty , finally got all the gear , fricken ups.... takes so long :P
    but i was wondering right now , im working out each muscle once a week, and 3 day split, and going til failure on mostly everything, can some one tweak my work out a lil bit so i can take full advantage of this?

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