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    Optimal Training On a Low-Carb Diet

    I just got back from the gym, and I am pissed. Had the WORST workout that I have had in years. I am looking for a program or training principles to do while on no/low-carbs.

    I am thinking something maybe ligher I don't know. I know this is extremely controversial. I want to LOSE FAT. That's it. Drop 10-15 lbs. of flab, and that's it.

    HST? DFHT? Any ideas?
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    why not eat more carbs. train how you train. limit your calories. and do some HIIT cardio?





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    Okay, after evaluating everything about my eating---like it said to in the binge book I am reading. While on a low-carb diet my cravings are gone, I feel like I can eat "better" foods if you will (bacon cheeseburgers, etc.) and I know for sure that fat-loss is awesome. My brother is a true example of Atkin's style eating. He weighed 180 lbs. and kinda' flabby, been on Atkin's for 3 months, now weighs 160ish and extremely lean. No refeeds, etc. Plays soccer and tennis very intensely and his performance has not at all been hindered.
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    BTW, I have been training an upper/lower split for the longest time now. Just looking for something different.
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    One final note, that I want to add. I am so sick of being pretty large, and kinda' flabby. It's great having some size, because honestly training in a variety of gyms you don't see too many well developed guys. And the ones that you do see are usually large with a higher % of bodyfat.

    However, being lean, with abs, makes all the different. Look at Usher in his "Confessions" video. The guy it what 150 lbs.? I mean he's obviously very skinny, but being so lean makes him appear so much larger. I would rather be lean, and have some decent size. Than have more size, and have some flab. If that makes any sense.

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    Cutting carbs is a lazy way of losing weight. Why dont you count the calories instead. Weight training is also a good way of losing bf - increase the tempo and number of reps in your sets and decrease the resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonStar
    One final note, that I want to add. I am so sick of being pretty large, and kinda' flabby. It's great having some size, because honestly training in a variety of gyms you don't see too many well developed guys. And the ones that you do see are usually large with a higher % of bodyfat.

    However, being lean, with abs, makes all the different. Look at Usher in his "Confessions" video. The guy it what 150 lbs.? I mean he's obviously very skinny, but being so lean makes him appear so much larger. I would rather be lean, and have some decent size. Than have more size, and have some flab. If that makes any sense.

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    Atkins is a sack of shit. Just lower your calorie intake and do cardio. You need the carbs.
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    Atkins' style eating has worked great for me in the past. I did not post a thread about opinions on Atkin's, I posted a thread about training on a ketogenic style diet.


    Cutting carbs is a lazy way of losing weight. Why dont you count the calories instead. Weight training is also a good way of losing bf - increase the tempo and number of reps in your sets and decrease the resistance.
    LOL, I am not a newbie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonStar
    LOL, I am not a newbie.
    those would be some impresive lifts if you were(and they are impressive anyways) I say just eat a balanced diet, count your calories, make sure you get your protein amount that you need( be it 1 gram per lbs, or whatever) and fill the rest in with quality carbs and healthy fats. And like said before throw in a few hiit sessions here and there
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    Low or no carb diets tend to eat muscle. Fact of life. That is probably why you had your worst workout in years

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    I say low carb it all you want . Just keep a few refeeds a week in there. Keep cals low and train hard.
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    I am tired of being self-conscious about taking my shirt off.


    Not to be rude, but then just actually stick to whatever diet you choose and not go back and forth between several different ones. It only takes discipline and dedication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonStar
    I just got back from the gym, and I am pissed. Had the WORST workout that I have had in years. I am looking for a program or training principles to do while on no/low-carbs.

    I am thinking something maybe ligher I don't know. I know this is extremely controversial. I want to LOSE FAT. That's it. Drop 10-15 lbs. of flab, and that's it.

    HST? DFHT? Any ideas?
    I was under the impression that training protocols should be kept pretty similar while cutting, no matter the method. However, I would assume that a program geared towards hypertrophy would be a waste of time because you aren't likely to gain muscle mass while on a diet like this.





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    Quote Originally Posted by kvyd
    I say low carb it all you want . Just keep a few refeeds a week in there. Keep cals low and train hard.
    Thing is, if MonStar is carb-sensitive and has a binging problem, the very last thing he should be doing is any kind of refeed. The insulin surge and consequent hormonal effects really f*ck you over if you are that way inclined.

    But everyone who says so is right; refeeds are really the only way to get anything like a good time in the gym while low-carbing for most people. (Your brother must be one of the lucky ones.)

    Mon, if you want to keep on low-carbing it, you should probably add refeeds and go for more of a keto style diet.

    If, however, you want something longterm, you'd probably be better off planning out -- and sticking with -- a moderate-carb, low-GI, calorie controlled pain-in-the-butt plan. You might also have success with a controlled refeed plan, in which your refeed days are more frequent, but also more moderate, with a tracked and counted number of carb grams from clean sources.
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