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    Question slow gains on cycle






    i did a 8 week cycle :
    1-8 sust 500
    1-8 deca 300

    i was working out like this:
    chest 1 day
    back 2 day
    shoulders 3 day
    bi's tri 4 day
    take day 5 off
    start workout cycle again
    i did this in past few years ago on winny-got big and strong
    this time i didnt get anything---UNTIL i started to workout mon-tues-thurs-friday--i then started to see graet results-but was at end of cycle. i went on 4 day vacation. i returned home- was in a rut for months. did a little pct. I became dizzy and paranoid alot. was not myself.
    well anyway i thought i was going insane-come to fing out it was mostly side-effects of some summer allergy that was possiibly effecting my inner-eye (possibly).

    Well my question is! even on cycle (which was legit gear) could i still be over training (i did eat good over 2500 cals 5xs a day lots of protein)

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    to take advantage of the anabolic properties of deca you should be eating at least 3,500 cals a day...minimum

    and where was leg day in your training ?
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    i did leg training w/ chest day--but still, can i have over trained my body so much working out 4 days on 1 day off-4 days on that the gear didnt get a chance assisit my growth, cause when i switched 2days on 1 day off 2 days on i seemed to hanve grown--biy was i run down.....sorry for he dumb question-i not new at this-but maybe my body changed

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    chest/legs & back in a 2 day period is a lot, especially when only taking in 2,500 cals. how much did you weigh then ?
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    Yes, you can overtrain on the juice. Yes, yes, yes.

    Especially on 2500 calories a day (wtf?) No leg training?
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    i dont think u were over training, it takes a lot of hours in the gym to overtrain

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    I would fix that routine before you look at steroids again.

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    I understand --now that i think of it, i did increase my calories over 3000 at the end. my 2on 2off training works for me i did blow up when i switch from the old 4on 1off period (man i was wiped out all the time on that one).
    i was 220 lbs and gained stength.

    wut about this guys....
    mon-chest
    tues-back
    weds-legs
    thurs-shoulders
    frii----arms'
    sat/sun off
    and little cardio.

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    legs and back are the 2 biggest body parts. IMO they should never be trained during the same training session OR on consecutive training days. too taxing on ATP stores and the CNS...
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    ok guys just so you know--i am a newbie to this forum thing- i think its great that i get replies.

    can someone just post a quick workout period--maybe im lost....LAM wuts urs like cause i dont like doing chest then say shoulders next day too sore..

    oh ya just before cycle was over i went from 315Lbs to 330 LBs seated front shoulder press w/out spotter-that was the week my new program started to work.

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    its all about shocking your body, change you routine every 4 weeks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeno
    its all about shocking your body, change you routine every 4 weeks...
    wrong...
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    why?

    could possibly be wrong, but works for me

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    Your body isn't all that smart. I think changing your routine is far more mental, than a physical requirement. I hardly touch my routine at all, and the changes are small typically.

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    Agreed.
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