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    bodyweight exercises

    pull ups are a bodyweight exercise, OK but so are dips and I progress on dips HEAPS more than pull ups. Like dips I'm adding 5-10 lbs around my waste each time I do them but with pull ups I'm happy if I get 1 more rep out with just my bodyweight. Is there a biomechanical reason that dips become much easier than pull ups?
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    I think dips are just generally easier to do than pullups. Triceps develop faster than back?

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    I am the opposite...I'll be lucky if I can finish out 3sets 8-12x for dips with body weight. Pull-ups with body weight...I can do 40x in 2sets. I do only 175 though. Oddly by chest is much more developed though. At least it looks bigger and better conditioned

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    it's just the difference in progression of the 2 exercises amazes me.

    Maybe it's a persons bicep/tricep relative strength and propensity for growth?
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    well put. My bi's have always been larger and much more vasculer than my tris's.

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    your pulling muscle are weaker than your pushing muscle.
    pullups are not easy, it takes a while to gain strength in them.
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    Dips are a shorter movement, plus they involve more muscles. Also, pushing/pulling away from your body's generally harder than something done close to the body.

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    Has anyone done any research into "combat conditioning" or "The Naked Warrior"? I have taken one day a week of wieghts off the schedule and started a bodywieght resistance routine on the day Im skipping the wieghts. It feels like I have been gaining a lot of "usable" strength out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KarlW
    Is there a biomechanical reason that dips become much easier than pull ups?
    the tricep is a fairly simple extensor while the latissimus dorsi is biarticulate...
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    LAM speak english please (me dummy.........dahhhh)
    What this means is that when we drop a ball and it falls to the ground, it wasn't the ball that moved (down to the ground), but the ground that moved (up to the ball)

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    I have taken one day a week of wieghts off the schedule and started a bodywieght resistance routine on the day Im skipping the wieghts. It feels like I have been gaining a lot of "usable" strength out of it.
    I think this gives you a more athletic look, because it is more athletic, less artificial than weights only.

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