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    Couple ???'s

    Lately my left elbow joint has been causing me pain when my arm is in a fully contracted state....the top of a bicep curl, beginning movement of a tri pressdown, etc. So I have been only lifting to the point just before pain....like the the bottom 3/4 of a bicep curl. My question is.....am I getting anything out of these partial movements or what?

    Ok, and my next question is really stupid I have this plate-loaded rowing machine at the gym...each 'arm' swings individually. If I've got a 45 on each side, what am I lifting...45 or 90 :o

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    I would have to advise maybe taking a 1-2 week break from lifting to heal your injury instead of risking even further injury to your elbow joint, but that is really not an answer to your question, I would say yes you are getting the benefit of the 3/4 bicep curl because at the top of the curl is where the resistance is lessened anyway.
    2nd Q, I would say you are simulating one arm bent over dumbell rows with this machine so 45lbs is the answer (i think), I am definitely no expert on either question, just trying to offer my 2 cents worth. Mike
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    I've been having the same problem, I have to use the EZ curl bar for bi's as the straight bar hurts to much. I've also changed some of my other lifts because of it. Guess I should see a doctor about it.

    Second Q, 90lb.
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    Oh great....anyone wanna be the tie breaker

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    Originally posted by w8lifter
    Oh great....anyone wanna be the tie breaker
    hmm I'd say you were doing 45lbs a side

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    as long as its not painful during the partial movement,i'd say keep trying to workout.also,remeber the ICE thing i pm you a while back.if it keeps giving you grief,may take a little time off.i know you got something coming up soon so just train smart,and good luck by the way

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    Originally posted by Tank316
    as long as its not painful during the partial movement,i'd say keep trying to workout.also,remeber the ICE thing i pm you a while back.if it keeps giving you grief,may take a little time off.i know you got something coming up soon so just train smart,and good luck by the way

    Thanks Tank....I can't really take time off right now...but it doesn't hurt w/ the partials so I'll stick w/ that for a while....and take a big break later

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    with partials, you can typically go up in weight depending on the type of movement. I do partials in the strong range of the movement after I do 3 sets of full reps. This will help build the ligaments and tendons at the joints. I usually increase poundage by 20% for partials. My full range rep strength is increasing and my shoulders and elbows don't hurt as much as before.

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    IAB and I have debated about your Q2. You just have to pick one way of recording it and be consistent!

    (personally, I'd say 45 - but that's me).

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    Re: Couple ???'s

    Originally posted by w8lifter
    Ok, and my next question is really stupid I have this plate-loaded rowing machine at the gym...each 'arm' swings individually. If I've got a 45 on each side, what am I lifting...45 or 90 :o
    I would say 45, since the arms work independently. If you were working both arms at the same time (like with any barbell move), I'd say it was 90.

    Just my opinion. But I have a big red ass....what do I know?

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    90 sounds more badass though

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    Originally posted by w8lifter
    90 sounds more badass though
    badass....is that person back....j/k yes 90lbs sounds more tough though.

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    Re: Couple ???'s

    Originally posted by w8lifter
    Lately my left elbow joint has been causing me pain when my arm is in a fully contracted state....the top of a bicep curl, beginning movement of a tri pressdown, etc. So I have been only lifting to the point just before pain....like the the bottom 3/4 of a bicep curl. My question is.....am I getting anything out of these partial movements or what?

    Ok, and my next question is really stupid I have this plate-loaded rowing machine at the gym...each 'arm' swings individually. If I've got a 45 on each side, what am I lifting...45 or 90 :o
    This pain you speak of is quite common to weight lifters. Partial movements are better than no movement. However, you may want to try different exercises to see if you can find some that don't hurt in the fully contracted state and/or lower the weight and decrease rep speed to cause less trauma on the inflamed tendon(s).

    If you pull both handles at the same time, like a bent bar row, than it would be 90 lbs. If you pull each individually, like a dumbell row, than it would be 45 lbs. But, doing it each way is really a somewhat different exercise.





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    Well, the handles move individually but I do 'em both at the the same time, lol.

    I'm trying to find exercises but I'm running out, lol...these all hurt...pronated bicep curl w/ straight bar or ez curl, pressdowns w/ rope, straight bar & v-bar, lying tricep extension w/ ez curl....I was doing them to the chin, but since I started doing them to the forehead it doesn't hurt.

    So this is another inflamed tendon? WTF is causing this? I did heavy strength training for several months...do you think that could be causing it?

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    who cares if its 45 a side or total of 90 its still the same thing.

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