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    In case you haven't seen this yet.






    "If you're not part of the solution, you're the precipitate."

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    100 mcg per kg is an insane dose. I would not even want to be alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    100 mcg per kg is an insane dose. I would not even want to be alive.
    that's like 15,000 mcg for you... But they explain that this is irrelevant for the study. That just means that necrosis isn't an issue.

    But on the study of Apoptosis, it's more like 1mcg/Kg..
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    To be honest I am not a big fan of clen, I dont like the sides. Its liveable at moderate doses, but still the feeling it gives you versus ONLY sweating is a little crappy for me. I dont like my heart racing unless I'm actually doing something, not just sitting in my chair typing away.

    I dont know that this is proof of carryover in humans though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    I dont know that this is proof of carryover in humans though.
    yea, neither do they

    I also don't care for it, but I thought some people might be interested to see the article
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    so what is that article saying in English? i can make out that it is anti-clen but that is about it, can't understand any of the jargon they are using
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    Quote Originally Posted by young d
    so what is that article saying in English? i can make out that it is anti-clen but that is about it, can't understand any of the jargon they are using :confuzed:
    basically that large doses of clenbuterol caused necrosis of cardiac myocytes or the death of cardiac muscle cells...
    William F. Buckley describes a conservative as, "someone who stands athwart history, yelling Stop." - and then proceeds to drag civilization back to times best left in history's dungheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    basically that large doses of clenbuterol caused necrosis of cardiac myocytes or the death of cardiac muscle cells...
    actually, moderate doses (150mcg in human equivalent)

    if you think about it, it seems like something you would expect. If you're putting that much extra stress on that heart, of course it's gonna get taxed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke9583
    actually, moderate doses (150mcg in human equivalent)
    prescription dosing for asthma patients using clenbuterol is 20 mcg in the am and 40 mcg before bed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    prescription dosing for asthma patients using clenbuterol is 20 mcg in the am and 40 mcg before bed...
    for the first 3 days maybe I think most people 'start' at around 20-40mcg... don't they?
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