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    What are your opinions on HIT

    While I have been out with a shoulder injury and an allergy, I have been studying on training that is effective but at the same time is safe for my shoulder problem. Some mentioned HIT, so I began reading about it. In fact I even went as far as buying The New High Intensity Training book by Dr. Ellington Darden.
    Although the routines seem pretty basic and some of the results have been amazing, I am an old style lifter. I trained 3-4 times a week and I would train body parts rather than full workouts.
    In my case it'll be good to do full body workouts because I am also looking to shed fat or cut.
    Now, I need to know from ya'll my internet family, what you folks think about HIT and about the results that it could bring. I also would like to know how it can also hurt me.
    I respect the opinions from the members of this community and would be hard pressed to not ask for those before I decide to or not to embark in such a training regime...
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    It takes a very ballsy/tough person to properly complete HIT. I think it is an absolutely brilliant program, and even went as far as to buy the Darden book you too bought. There are some excellent stories in there, and some excellent tips aswell, but personally I like to seperate what I do on each day.

    Duncan Donuts is probably the biggest HIT advocate around, you should check out his journal, very informative.
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    I used HIT to get ready for my first ever contest. I decided about 10 months out that I was going to do it. This was no easy task though as I was almost 280 pounds of pure blubber. Never really worked out consistantly. A month here, a month there. A week here a, week there. I followed HIT like this. I worked out 3 times a week
    Mon-Uppers
    Wed-Lowers
    Fri-Uppers
    and alternate the following week. I did cardio on Tu, Th, and Sat.
    Look at my gallery, not exactly much, but I felt and feel much better about myself.
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    Regarding the HIT, I will definitely keep your comments in mind. I'll check Duncan's journal....

    Archangel: Cool Nick by the way....You weighed 280 pounds? and then you looked like that? with HIT? Man, you really did great. What was your competition weight? Thanks for the input, I am really stoked about this....
    By the way, Phil. 4:13, a very strong verse....
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    Tony,

    HIT/Rest pause made me *noticably* stronger in 2 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasma62
    Archangel: Cool Nick by the way....You weighed 280 pounds? and then you looked like that? with HIT? Man, you really did great. What was your competition weight? Thanks for the input, I am really stoked about this....
    By the way, Phil. 4:13, a very strong verse....
    Thanks on the nickname!!! Yes right at 280. All with HIT. My competition weight was 213. No problem, glad to be of assistance!!! Thanks alot for the compliment.
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    Arch, you look great man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts
    Arch, you look great man
    Thanks Brother!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncans Donuts
    Arch, you look great man
    I am glad you came by here. I really couldn't find your journal.....
    I'll get to reading...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luke9583
    Tony,

    HIT/Rest pause made me *noticably* stronger in 2 months.
    Thanks Lucky Luke, you know your input is always welcome and expected....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    I used HIT to get ready for my first ever contest. I decided about 10 months out that I was going to do it. This was no easy task though as I was almost 280 pounds of pure blubber. Never really worked out consistantly. A month here, a month there. A week here a, week there. I followed HIT like this. I worked out 3 times a week
    Mon-Uppers
    Wed-Lowers
    Fri-Uppers
    and alternate the following week. I did cardio on Tu, Th, and Sat.
    Look at my gallery, not exactly much, but I felt and feel much better about myself.
    Now, did you follow the "One set to failure" doctrine? Or did you do it differently. Everything that I have read so far, says that if I have proper form and do my reps slowly, I will be close to fatigued in my last rep.
    Whatcha think?
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    Well, I was reading Duncan's journal, which by the way was extremely interesting, and he did one set. He's huge.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasma62
    Now, did you follow the "One set to failure" doctrine? Or did you do it differently. Everything that I have read so far, says that if I have proper form and do my reps slowly, I will be close to fatigued in my last rep.
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    Yes Sir I did!!! I picked 3 exercises from each bp. And did one set to failure for each. Trust me Brother, you will be fatigued!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Yes Sir I did!!! I picked 3 exercises from each bp. And did one set to failure for each. Trust me Brother, you will be fatigued!!!
    Forgive me for jumping on, but I'm gonna.

    How many reps are the target for 1 set? Also, from your journal, it looks like you changed up from this style. Any reason?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pylon
    Forgive me for jumping on, but I'm gonna.

    How many reps are the target for 1 set? Also, from your journal, it looks like you changed up from this style. Any reason?
    Jump on Brother 8-12 for uppers, and 12-20 for lowers!!! I changed my routine because I know how HIT affects me, now I want to see how another program does, and then go with the one I got the best results on. Plus it keeps my body guessin'!!!
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    C'mon Tony, do HIT!!!!!!! You won't be disappointed. It may take a few w/o's to really get the intensity and the weights where you should be but you'll do great on it.
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    Damn Angel, I didn't know you weighed 280. I used to weigh about 290 a few years back. You look great now, what you accomplished is just awesome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock4832
    C'mon Tony, do HIT!!!!!!! You won't be disappointed. It may take a few w/o's to really get the intensity and the weights where you should be but you'll do great on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock4832
    Damn Angel, I didn't know you weighed 280. I used to weigh about 290 a few years back. You look great now, what you accomplished is just awesome!
    Thanks Brother. Much appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Jump on Brother 8-12 for uppers, and 12-20 for lowers!!! I changed my routine because I know how HIT affects me, now I want to see how another program does, and then go with the one I got the best results on. Plus it keeps my body guessin'!!!
    OK, so...and sorry if this was done somewhere and I missed it...what was a typical HIT routine and split? (If it is in your journal, Arch, let me know and I'll go find it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    I worked out 3 times a week
    Mon-Uppers
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    and alternate the following week. I did cardio on Tu, Th, and Sat.
    3 exercises for each bp (1 set each exercise to failure)
    Is this what you where askin for? It's not in my journal. Just started one with P/RR/S this month!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    3 exercises for each bp (1 set each exercise to failure)
    Is this what you where askin for? It's not in my journal. Just started one with P/RR/S this month!!!
    I was looking more at 1 set of this, 1 set of that, 3 days cardio, etc etc etc...
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    is this just in reference to HIT style lifting or lifting and cardio.
    if so, what are some good types of HIT cardio that worked for any of you, if you do use HIT cardio

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    lifting HIT sytle, one set to failure is great. the only problem with it is that most people are not mental enough and to big of pu$$ys to do it properly. Sorry, sad but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk
    lifting HIT sytle, one set to failure is great. the only problem with it is that most people are not mental enough and to big of pu$$ys to do it properly. Sorry, sad but true.
    I agree with you Patrick, you have to have a pair of brass balls to try it. I have been reading that you get to puke if done right....
    I have puked before (right after drinking ), so I'm not worried.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by j rizz
    is this just in reference to HIT style lifting or lifting and cardio.
    if so, what are some good types of HIT cardio that worked for any of you, if you do use HIT cardio
    For cardio it's called HIIT, one really good cardio style is Max-OT cardio, I read it's murder.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rock4832
    C'mon Tony, do HIT!!!!!!! You won't be disappointed. It may take a few w/o's to really get the intensity and the weights where you should be but you'll do great on it.
    Oh believe me, I am stoked about doing this. I was just getting all the information I can gather to do this right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archangel
    Jump on Brother 8-12 for uppers, and 12-20 for lowers!!! I changed my routine because I know how HIT affects me, now I want to see how another program does, and then go with the one I got the best results on. Plus it keeps my body guessin'!!!
    Brother, P/RR/S is the shiatzu......Gopro has a very good plan and it works, no question. I was doing it, but I stopped because I hurt my shoulder, so after therapy ended, I wanted to find something good for cutting and quick (20 min. to 30 min.) since I need to play with my kids daily before they go to bed, and what I have been reading so far about HIT is that there is barely any rest and that I need to have good form to do it, so it will also be a re-learning experience......
    I love P/RR/S and I am sure I'll be back on as soon as I am properly healed and have found out how HIT affects me and need to try something else, although not new to me.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasma62
    Brother, P/RR/S is the shiatzu......Gopro has a very good plan and it works, no question. I was doing it, but I stopped because I hurt my shoulder, so after therapy ended, I wanted to find something good for cutting and quick (20 min. to 30 min.) since I need to play with my kids daily before they go to bed, and what I have been reading so far about HIT is that there is barely any rest and that I need to have good form to do it, so it will also be a re-learning experience......
    I love P/RR/S and I am sure I'll be back on as soon as I am properly healed and have found out how HIT affects me and need to try something else, although not new to me.....
    Thats ideal for your schedule. You'll have plenty of time to play with your kids. I understand you there!!! And as far as the rest between sets goes. I only rested enough to get to the next exercise. With the exception of squats, I rested till I almost got my wind back!!! Keep a journal. Would like to see your progress along the way and help out if I can!!!
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    HIT rocks... I use a slightly higher volume HIT routine and Im extremely happy. I would do the one set to failure if I had a good spotter (which is really needed for HIT style training).

    I use more of a Max OT approach ... between 4-6 sets per bodypart, 4-8 reps per bodypart, to failure.
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