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Cold Iron said:Welsch to Cle for a 1st
That would be gr81's worst nightmare. I don't see it happening though.Flex said:And I also heard a terrible rumor that they were maybe gonna trade Pierce for Allen.
And I also heard a terrible rumor that they were maybe gonna trade Pierce for Allen.
soxmuscle said:Antoine Walker back to Boston, Gary Payton traded to Minnesota. Wow.
soxmuscle said:Yea, I jumped on the rumor too quickly. Whats being reported now is Gary Payton will request his buy out from Atlanta and resign with the Celts. It doesn't get any better than that.
Flex said:what u mean request his buyout and resign???
does that mean what i think it means?
Seattle is the one who offered the trade to Boston....gr81 said:no way Seattle makes that trade, Shultz and Wally Walker want to resign Allen badly..
Cold Iron said:Dumbcock didn't make one move.......now Marshall will walk at the end of the season for nutting
Ric Bucher on ESPN News is reporting that Gary Payton will sign a 2 year deal with the Celtics for the veteran minimum. What a deal if this is true, Dannyboy!Flex said:come on, sox. you're leavin' me hangin'..
soxmuscle said:Ric Bucher on ESPN News is reporting that Gary Payton will sign a 2 year deal with the Celtics for the veteran minimum. What a deal if this is true, Dannyboy!
Lafrentz, Walker, Allen, Pierce, Payton with Davis, Jefferson, Perkins, West, and Banks coming off the bench.
I know, it's probably ESPN jumping to the gun chatter. We'll see soon..Cold Iron said:WTF no one signs a 2yr vet minimum, ESPECIALLY GP.
IainDaniel said:There was no deal to make, everyone wanted to dump a long term salary on the raps, for Marshall. And they weren't gonna get shit for Williams. So it didn't make sense to do any deals. I wouldn't trade Rose. What other Bait we gonna deal Raifer, who the raps signed to a rediculously long contract. Who would want that
Postive though it will open some Cap room at the end of the Year.
I don't think the Raps could compete with the deals the Knicks, '76ers, Celtics made. Why make your team shittier just for making a deal. Just keep coming out competing, and chances will show themselves. And work on some D.
It will be interesting to see the Ego conflict in Philly with Iverson and Webber
soxmuscle said:I know, it's probably ESPN jumping to the gun chatter. We'll see soon..
Cold Iron said:But there were deals, thats the thing. E williams has trade value, don't kid yourself. Rafer is a bargain for the numbers he puts up, I bet we could find a suitor and get an expriring back
IainDaniel said:None of the deals would have been any help to the raps, except exchanging Baggage. Raifer has a 6 year Contract worth 24 Million. Who would wanna tie up 6 years, with a guy that is fucked in the head. Especially with the new CBA talks coming up, and trying to shorten contract lengths.
E Williams has very minimal trade value, he has done Jack for the raps except one game against the Bucks a while back. And everyone in the league is gonna think they can pick him up for nothing cause he has demanded a trade much like the VC scenario.
Cold Iron said:I heard a Wagner, Pavlovic + Diop deal was on the table. I agree, not the greatest but atleast some young blood with somewhat-potential.
I know understand though that we were/are severely handicapped by our financial situation which restricted our ability to make any moves big time
Lux Tax is rumored to be gone this year only because some sort of big lump sum payment the league got for a Laker deal. But it can be back in 05-06 season. Lux Tax Threshold is around 55 million. It's rumored in the NEW CBA that the teams over lux tax will now PAY 2 DOLLARS for every dollar there over. We have wayyy to much committed in guaranteed $$, we couldnt take on anything, that wasnt an expiring. With donyell being an expiring himself we needed a package of either a pick/prospect + an expiring, something I guess no one had or was willing to pay.
Rafer is averaging 14 and 7. His contract averages around 4 million per. Someone would give us an expiring for him, guarantee it. If you got talent and a cheap contract, someone will take a flyer on you
I disagree. Eric has tremendous respect around the league and every GM in the league would love to have him aboard. His numbers are down but that is TOTALLY expected. You probably didnt know this but Erics wife was murdered a while back and he is now raising his children by himself. Last off-season he had just signed a contract to play back at home in NJ, his hometown, so that he could be closer with his family and spend more time with them and raise them. Eric's a stand-up guy but theirs extenuating circumstances that a lot of people dont know about. Knowing everything that transpired in toronto, I dont blame him one bit for demanding a trade and would anyone?
IainDaniel said:Raifer has too many issues that scare alot of teams. I think that is the big problem. And the Raps offered him a miracle contract last off-season, hence the reason he jumped all over it. He is very streaky, he can play good, but can also stink up the floor.
I new Eric didn't want to leave NJ and wanted to be close to family, didn't know that about his wife. That sucks. I don't blame him one bit for demanding a trade. He hasn't got a chance under Mitchell's lead. But the fact that he has demanded a trade, and Babcock being pretty green in the GM position, allows other experienced GM's to come in and make rediculous offers to try and take advantage.