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    Avoiding Arginine

    Was looking into foods high in Arginine. Unfortunately walnuts are high in them (compared to lysine). Though they are highly recommended as one of the best nuts for a source of fats. So are there any alternatives? Can one supplement with Lysine to increase the ratio of Lysine to Arginine to offset this?

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    Maybe I read ? wrong, but why avoid arginine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by god hand
    Maybe I read ? wrong, but why avoid arginine?
    It increases the chances of an outbreak of cold sores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
    It increases the chances of an outbreak of cold sores.
    only if you already have the virus that causes them. you either get cold sores or you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    only if you already have the virus that causes them. you either get cold sores or you don't.
    that right. Only if one is succeptable to getting them. I want to keep my chances as low as possible.

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    dude. Its not that bad, dont worry about it. I get cold sores, and I supplement with arginine, and I havent had any in years.
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    there is an Rx (very expensive) but effective for cold sores, ask your drug dealer, I mean your doc.

    our son gets them, not sure why because neither my wife or I do.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
    that right. Only if one is succeptable to getting them. I want to keep my chances as low as possible.
    supplementing with arginine won't effect wether or not you get the virus that causes them
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    Hate to share it with you but chances are you already have it.

    About 80% of the general population actually already has/carries the Herpes Simplex Virus (cold sore virus). It is just that only ~20% will actually express the virus and get the sores...

    Many people who do express the sores will supplement with lysine, but there is no use reducing your intake of Arginine 'just incase'....

    If you are really worried you could... And you could also increase your intake of the cruciferous vegetables (broccoli etc) because compounds in these are also linked to inhibiting the virus growth... And start to suppliment with Selenium and Zinc... But this is probably going over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishOrCutBait
    dude. Its not that bad, dont worry about it. I get cold sores, and I supplement with arginine, and I havent had any in years.
    I had a couple of outbreaks a while ago and was trying to keep it under control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio
    there is an Rx (very expensive) but effective for cold sores, ask your drug dealer, I mean your doc. .
    Yes i asked my pill pusher.. i mean doc an he did explain there are meds to keep it under control. I was trying to keep outbreaks to a min by controlling arginine intake and increasing lysine intake as i came accross suggestions that helps in reducing outbreaks. Rather than keep popping meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAM
    supplementing with arginine won't effect wether or not you get the virus that causes them
    Thats right, it wont prevent infection. But i read and heard that keeping arginine lower in ratio to lysine reduced the number of outbreaks. And hence was looking into possibilities of controlling this by the food i intake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
    Many people who do express the sores will supplement with lysine, but there is no use reducing your intake of Arginine 'just incase'....
    I saw a med show on tv this afternoon which suggested a lower ratio of arginine to lysine reduces the chances of an outbreak. And that got me thinking.

    One of the whey-egg protein shakes i use daily saya it is high in arginine as well as walnuts have a higher ratio of arginine to lysine. Oh well, i guess i shall just leave things the way they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BulkMeUp
    Thats right, it wont prevent infection. But i read and heard that keeping arginine lower in ratio to lysine reduced the number of outbreaks. And hence was looking into possibilities of controlling this by the food i intake.
    If you already get them the best thing you can do is make sure your immune system is not 'stressed' at all - so keep your body healthy and happy and you will decrease the risk of outbreaks significantly.

    You may find dietary manipulation helps in terms of decreasing your walnuts etc - although it might be easier just to suppliment with lysine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
    If you already get them the best thing you can do is make sure your immune system is not 'stressed' at all - so keep your body healthy and happy and you will decrease the risk of outbreaks significantly.
    Yup. A stress free life for me always

    Quote Originally Posted by Emma-Leigh
    You may find dietary manipulation helps in terms of decreasing your walnuts etc - although it might be easier just to suppliment with lysine.
    Thanks, Emma. I'll look into supplimenting with lysine.

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