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kenwood said:ok i have heard to work the bicep like the ball part or w/e its called, when u do a bb curl or any curl instead of going all the way up stop at like half way up and squeeze for 2-3sec then go back down slowly is this true?
CowPimp said:Oh, and don't you mean "~bicep question~?"
CowPimp said:Oh, and don't you mean "~bicep question~?"
i like incline curls i think there the way to go.CooLdude said:Although I have seen people who do partials for about everything I would still stick with full range of motion. Slow heavy 1 arm preacher curls promote alot of growth. Give them a try after barbell curls
CooLdude said:barbell curls, alternating incline curls, preachers got u a routine
kenwood said:lol..well i have just did my workout back and biceps..i did 4sets for bi's..i wished i would of read this sooner so i could of did this workout lol
gogo said:If i was you i would do my back workout first then my bi's
Heres what my back and bicep routine looks like.
Dead lifts 4 x 10
Cable rows 4 x 12
chinups 4 sets of max
Incline dumbell curl 4 x 12
prechure curl 4 x 12
Hammer curl 4 x 12
By the time i get to hammer curls my arms are pretty well pooched.
CooLdude said:Although I have seen people who do partials for about everything I would still stick with full range of motion. Slow heavy 1 arm preacher curls promote alot of growth. Give them a try after barbell curls
CowPimp said:Explain to me why slow and heavy 1 arm preacher curls promote growth more than any other variation of basic elbow flexion?
Squaggleboggin said:Why don't you explain it? I can't find where he said it...
I would agree that one arm preacher curls are probably among the best exercises for isolating the biceps. Each arm works independently with the entire load being moved entirely by the bicep because it is completely isolated. I've never tried them but it would appear that way to me. I did take a liking to spider curls before though. Excellent way to isolate and get a truly full ROM IMO. Of course, I find bicep work quite pointless now but the validity of the exercise remains steadfast to me.
CowPimp said:I quoted the claim right before my response. He's the one making the claim. I disagree; I don't think they promote growth better than any other curl variation.
PWGriffin said:U r right although I find incline curls and preachers more taxing than say standing camber bar curls for the fact that there is limited body movement creating momentum. But by ur logic...one could do say six sets of incline curls and call it a day?? Or do you still recommend a variation of exercises?? If so, why??
And there is a bicep sticky around here somewhere IIRC that said building it up was more about lighter weight with slower movements while squeezing and holding at the top and almost flexing ur tricep at the bottom to ensure a full ROM.
CowPimp said:I quoted the claim right before my response. He's the one making the claim. I disagree; I don't think they promote growth better than any other curl variation.
Squaggleboggin said:He said he thought they promoted a lot of growth. I don't see where he said they were better than another exercise.
It's not the movement itself that is more valuable, but the way in which it is performed that matters. I think the total isolation will help due to human error. It's human nature to cheat at least a little bit and with a preacher curl it's simply much more difficult to do that. Isolating the muscle completely will help to develop it and fatigue it more quickly than other curls, thus saving time for exercises that actually matter. Heh, heh, heh...
CowPimp said:Well when he says they promote a lot of growth, using that modifying adjective indicates that it promotes more growth than other exercises. The term has to be relative, or what he metric is he basing it on? With that logic, every bicep exercise would promote a lot of growth. Whatever, it's semantics we're getting into here. I'm pretty sure he was implying that it is better than other exercises out there, or he wouldn't have recommended it.
CowPimp said:I see your point. Of course, you could just not cheat, and then the problem is solved. You could also put your back up against a wall when you do normal curls. You can still cheat the ROM on either one.
Squaggleboggin said:It's not necessarily relative though. He could have just meant they promote a lot of growth, as in what he considers to be favorable progress, not necessarily that it was a lot more than another exercise. Again, we're arguing over nothing, but that's pretty much what I do. You're pretty much the only person I do this with... Hahaha.
Of course, that's why I prefer spider curls. Very difficult to cheat in any way at all.
CowPimp said:Well, that's how I preceived it. We can argue about it all we want, but only the person who said it truly knows.
Yeah, I've done those too. I definitely think it's a good movement as well.
Squaggleboggin said:Yup, like I said, I argue about nothing quite a bit, but mostly with you for some reason. Haha.