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    test & primo

    hows this look to you guys?

    weeks 1-10 test enan 250mg/wk
    weeks 1-10 primo 400mg/wk

    a few questions...

    1) is that dose of primo ok? or should i go slightly higher? ie 500-600mg?

    2) will i still be at a high risk of gyno on that cycle from the test, and if so is an AI on cycle recommended? or should i get away without anything?

    3) i'm thinking about throwing some var in again, most probably at the end, but i want to try and avoid all orals this time round, would masteron be a reasonable alternative to the var? (var seemed to give me lovely seperation, strength and vascularity, can i expect similar things from masteron?)

    FYI the test dose is kept low because i'm not taking any chances with the gyno this time, and also the BP problems i had last time round, just want something a bit easier on the system, hence the inclusion of the primo (although expensive!)

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    Got money to burn?

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    If you have the cash and dont mind all the shots just do masteron and Primo....no need for any test on this cycle.
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    Young D go fuck off. You have so many things you want to try. Why don't you just do 5 grams a week of grear until you reach the size you want and then stop. What a fucking young dickhead you are. I guess dickheads come young cause your fucking one of them.


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    i would tell you to keep your hair on, but seems like you've lost it all already!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    If you have the cash and dont mind all the shots just do masteron and Primo....no need for any test on this cycle.
    yeah, i was wondering is test really that essential? i do hear of some guys running cycles without test and still making good gains, i guess it depends how supressive the other things are that you plan on running it with, like primo is very mild on the HPTA, i doubt i will have too much trouble with libdo (from what i've heard others say about primo only), i can get masteron in the enan ester, so that is an option, and that way i could still get away with jabbing 2x a week, but just not sure whether the effects of the masteron would quite match the effects of test, if i didn't go with test then eq and primo would be another option

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    Test E, 500mg/wk, 8-12 weeks. Use an AI since you're so deathly afraid of estrogen problems.

    You only weigh like 190 right? Stop fucking with these combinations that you don't need. You're wasting money. People @ over 200 grow just fine off of 500mg of test. The fact that you've done 3 cycles DOESN'T MATTER. Size matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers
    Test E, 500mg/wk, 8-12 weeks. Use an AI since you're so deathly afraid of estrogen problems.

    You only weigh like 190 right? Stop fucking with these combinations that you don't need. You're wasting money. People @ over 200 grow just fine off of 500mg of test. The fact that you've done 3 cycles DOESN'T MATTER. Size matters.
    you are a bright spark aren't you! incase you were unaware i am highly gyno prone, testosterone aromatises very easily to estrogen which might just result in, yep, you guessed it, gyno, recommending a high dose test cycle to a gyno prone user is not only dumb but also very dangerous, and IMO you should stop giving out crap advice or else some poor sod is going to end up with long term problems, and the guilt will lie with you

    FYI primobolan has no conversion to estrogen, neither dose masteron (it actually has some anti-estrogenic properties), and eq aromatises at roughly half the rate of what test does, so me being a health conceous individual would rather run something that will not give me a pair of boobs by the time i'm done, and AI's are not the solution, there is no guarentee it will stop me getting gyno and running high doses of AI's on a cycle is no fun at all, i'd rather be on creatine than test and a heavy AI dose

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    Some folks that I've seen use Masteron say it is very dangerous, due to supposed dehydration qualities. I dont know myself, its a pussy steroid so I have no use for it.

    Run a low dose of something else IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    Some folks that I've seen use Masteron...its a pussy steroid
    Don't let LAM hear that.

    Young d, Regular use of an AI will prevent any gyno caused by test. If you are looking to cut, why not use masteron, eq, and var for 10-12 wks? Why primo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by young d
    you are a bright spark aren't you! incase you were unaware i am highly gyno prone, testosterone aromatises very easily to estrogen which might just result in, yep, you guessed it, gyno, recommending a high dose test cycle to a gyno prone user is not only dumb but also very dangerous, and IMO you should stop giving out crap advice or else some poor sod is going to end up with long term problems, and the guilt will lie with you

    FYI primobolan has no conversion to estrogen, neither dose masteron (it actually has some anti-estrogenic properties), and eq aromatises at roughly half the rate of what test does, so me being a health conceous individual would rather run something that will not give me a pair of boobs by the time i'm done, and AI's are not the solution, there is no guarentee it will stop me getting gyno and running high doses of AI's on a cycle is no fun at all, i'd rather be on creatine than test and a heavy AI dose
    500mg of Test isn't a high dose. And it's far from "dangerous" . AI's prevent it from converting to estrogen. You've demonstrated you don't know what the hell you're doing when it comes to steroids. You've run 2-3 cycles? You'd think you would have learned something by now. Do yourself a favor and don't waste money on primobolan, spend it on aromasin or adex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brogers
    Do yourself a favor and don't waste money on primobolan
    have you ever ran primo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateFromHell
    Don't let LAM hear that.

    Young d, Regular use of an AI will prevent any gyno caused by test. If you are looking to cut, why not use masteron, eq, and var for 10-12 wks? Why primo?
    not really looking to cut as such, more of a recomp cycle, just to improve body composition, i've heard really good things about primo, seems like the perfect anabolic compound for me, only downside is the cost but hopefully it will be worth it, i'm pretty much set on running it this cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
    Some folks that I've seen use Masteron say it is very dangerous, due to supposed dehydration qualities.
    hmm, i've not heard that about it before, i knew it could dry out the joints slightly, but i wouldn't have imagined it would be as bad as say winstrol?

    really i'm swaying towards the test/primo this time, keeping the test low at 250 and the primo at a decent dose of 600 (.600-1g seems to be whats advised)

    i'd want to try and get away without using an AI if possible, maybe 0.5mg of adex eod won't hurt too much

    might also run a prop kickstart for 1st 3 weeks at 50mg EOD, i think i'm through with orals now (apart from var, which i might run at the end)

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    Ok lets go to round two......."D"... Ding, Ding, the bell has rung

    Try Test @ 200 mgs / EW
    EQ @ 800-1000 mgs / EW.

    If you would only try it for a spell you might find it would work for you.

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