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    Bodybuilding without supplements

    Hi all

    I'm new to the group.
    Just wanted to know if anyone can recommend a decent post workout food to pack on some more muscle.
    I've been training for the past 10 years now and decided to come off supplements completely. I'm eating a lot more food now, but in the long term I believe it will be healthier as you dont know what the long term effects of supplementation are.
    I currently eating 5 egg whites one whole egg and some brown rice about 30 mins after my workout. Straight after my workout I drink about 3/4 pint of orange juice for simple carbs & a banana.
    I currently stand at 5ft8, a small frame with the following stats @ 12% bodyfat.

    12 stone 2
    16.5 inch biceps
    44 chest
    32 waist
    16.5 neck
    23 quads

    I would like to get upto the 13 stone mark & drop my bf to around 8% and on my small frame I would look a lot bigger in proportion to someone with a large frame @ 13 stone.

    I look forward to any suggestions.
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    I would just have 20 ounces of skim milk. Then an hour later, have the brown rice and some chicken, tuna or eggs.

    Its not ideal, but it will be fine.

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    Thanks for your reply Twin Peak, I will bear that in mind. I have however managed to source a good whey protein powder from a company called Neways. All their products are made from natural ingredients and non carcenagenic (ie. non cancer causing & chemical free) so I will prob throw in two scoops of their Whey to speed up the recovery process.
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin Peak
    I would just have 20 ounces of skim milk. Then an hour later, have the brown rice and some chicken, tuna or eggs.

    Its not ideal, but it will be fine.
    interesting...why wouldn't you recommend the eggs immediately PW?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert ********
    interesting...why wouldn't you recommend the eggs immediately PW?
    True

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    IMO, one cannot make gains without supplements. They allow you to have a poor diet and a lousy training regimen and still get big and strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topolo
    IMO, one cannot make gains without supplements. They allow you to have a poor diet and a lousy training regimen and still get big and strong.
    True

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    Quote Originally Posted by topolo
    IMO, one cannot make gains without supplements. They allow you to have a poor diet and a lousy training regimen and still get big and strong.
    Not me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by topolo
    IMO, one cannot make gains without supplements. They allow you to have a poor diet and a lousy training regimen and still get big and strong.
    I disagree!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by topolo
    IMO, one cannot make gains without supplements. They allow you to have a poor diet and a lousy training regimen and still get big and strong.

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    I disagree!!
    Agreed

    Even with a lousy diet but you are using some supplements yes you may grow slightly but i believe the gains will be small,without proper diet your body is not getting the EFA's,vitamins and minerals and other important nutrients for your body to function and GROW

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    Quote Originally Posted by topolo
    IMO, one cannot make gains without supplements. They allow you to have a poor diet and a lousy training regimen and still get big and strong.
    i disagree 100%

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    OH, I thought supps were all you needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert ********
    interesting...why wouldn't you recommend the eggs immediately PW?

    Sorry Rob, not sure if you were joking here?

    Stress hampers digestion. The Glucocorticoids released under stress divert blood flow from digestion related organs. Eggs take quite a bit of energy to breakdown. As a complex protein, it requires many many enzymes and activation processes, most of which will all be hamped from the stress of the workout. IMHO, I would even be weary of milk PWO. (skim or not)

    I like to stick with my 10-15g of a simple carb. Does great by me, and helps me keep my BG pretty level as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin Peak
    I would just have 20 ounces of skim milk. Then an hour later, have the brown rice and some chicken, tuna or eggs.

    Its not ideal, but it will be fine.
    twin peak, what if the guy is lactose intolerant as I am. I am interested in finding an alternative to whey once in a while and I cant stomach eggs.

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