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    sorry to report, missing GI's found dead


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    What does this have to do with attention whoring?

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    Tough luck.

    You live by the sword, you die by the sword.


    They went to kill and got killed.

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    story ive been follwing

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    The Americans have been dropping Napalm on civilians since 2003.

    The Pentagon denied the reports of it by the BBC.

    After 2 years of denials, the Pentagon now says, yes, they have been using Napalm.

    The changed the name of the bomb.


    And people care about these two f*kwits who are 2 amonth tens of thousands?


    Give me a break.
    It's an accurate statement that our current spending will not be increasing the debt We've stopped spending money that we don't have.

    -- Jack Lew, then director of the Office of Management and Budget, in Feb. 16, 2011 testimony before the Senate Budget Committee.

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    Cheney & The Dark Side

    Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - Page updated at 12:00 AM

    "Frontline" documentary makes case that Cheney used 9/11 to go to war
    By Mark Rahner

    Seattle Times staff reporter

    The title of the "Frontline" documentary comes from Vice President Dick Cheney's own words about the war on terror: "We have to work the dark side, if you will. ... "

    Last week's grim milestone of 2,500 American military deaths in Iraq will look even grimmer after tonight's "Frontline" documentary, "The Dark Side."

    The damning 90-minute exposé (10 p.m. PBS) stops short of laying those bodies at Vice President Dick Cheney's feet. But it does finger Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld — through more than 40 interviews with CIA veterans, journalists, politicians and others — as the ones who ignored, suppressed and manipulated intelligence after the 9/11 attacks to lead us into war with a country that had nothing to do with our attackers.

    And you wonder why the GOP hasn't exactly been a sugar daddy for public television.

    Comedians have made countless Darth Vader jokes about Cheney, but the film's title is no joke about The Force. It's from Cheney's own words about America's response to terrorists: "We have to work the dark side, if you will. We've got to spend time in the shadows in the intelligence world. A lot of what needs to be done here will have to be done quietly without any discussion, using sources and methods that are available to our intelligence agencies."

    But apparently he didn't use the actual intelligence from the agencies.

    The CIA and its then-director, George Tenet, knew immediately that al-Qaida in Afghanistan was responsible for the 9/11 attacks and said so. But author James Bamford says that while the Pentagon was still smoking, Rumsfeld said, "We've got to see, somehow, how we can bring Saddam Hussein into this."

    "The Dark Side" claims that 9/11 provided Cheney and Rumsfeld with a pretext for achieving their longstanding ambition to go after the Iraqi dictator and to boost executive power that they'd seen diminish ever since their days as allies in Nixon's administration. As consummate political infighters, they resented and continually undermined Tenet — a sports-loving man's man who had become pally with George W. Bush.

    The CIA repeatedly insisted that there was no connection between Saddam and al-Qaida, and Tenet explicitly warned that invading Iraq would "break the back" of our counterterrorism effort. Tenet even ordered the agency's records scoured 10 years back for links. CIA vet Michael Scheuer, who led that effort, says, "There was no connection between al-Qaida and Saddam."

    But Cheney, the chief architect of the war on terror and the most powerful vice president in U.S. history, had made up his mind, according to "The Dark Side." CIA vets say Cheney and his now-indicted chief of staff, Scooter Libby, made unprecedented trips to CIA headquarters to pressure and "harangue" analysts who were compiling the National Intelligence Estimate. Analyst Paul Pillar, one of its primary authors, says he regrets his role in the hastily prepared, fatally flawed document, which was "clearly requested and published for policy-advocacy purposes ... to strengthen the case for going to war with the American public."

    The apparent circularity of the pro-war machinations is especially disturbing. Then-New York Times reporter Judith Miller would get off-the-record info from the White House about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, print the claims in Sunday's paper, and then Cheney, Condoleezza Rice and others would cite the articles as evidence on the Sunday talk shows to justify the invasion.

    While Tenet and Secretary of State Colin Powell had strong reservations about Iraq, sources quoted in "The Dark Side" say the two eventually caved in. Tenet, says former weapons inspector David Kay, "traded integrity for access" to power, while Powell was ultimately a team player.

    "The Dark Side" is especially timely in light of those who persisted in equating the Iraq war with the fight against terrorism in the debate leading to last Friday's pro-war House resolution.

    These are the guys who want our phone records now. If "The Dark Side" is as credible as it looks — and it's no cheap Michael Moore job — they can't even be trusted to go after the right bad guys when they've got the right intelligence handed to them on a platter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Snafu
    The Americans have been dropping Napalm on civilians since 2003.

    The Pentagon denied the reports of it by the BBC.

    After 2 years of denials, the Pentagon now says, yes, they have been using Napalm.

    The changed the name of the bomb.


    And people care about these two f*kwits who are 2 amonth tens of thousands?


    Give me a break.
    They're Americans, the other were not.

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    Oh I see....that's the way you feel....

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    For the most part.

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    True Story, but civilians are civilians, even if they have tanish colored skin.
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    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
    Total ownage.

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    I want our young folks to come home and get on with their life. It's been 3+ years.

    Many of them may have problems.

    There aren't a lot of good jobs around anymore.

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    The bodies showed signs of "barbaric torture" when they were found by American and Iraqi troops on Monday, a senior Iraqi general told Reuters on Tuesday.


    Is their another kind of torture that is not "Barbaric"???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForemanRules
    The bodies showed signs of "barbaric torture" when they were found by American and Iraqi troops on Monday, a senior Iraqi general told Reuters on Tuesday.


    Is their another kind of torture that is not "Barbaric"???

    Newspeak, son. We tourture the enemy humanely.
    Quote Originally Posted by kbm8795 View Post
    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
    Total ownage.

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    True Story, while I'm making my point, I would like that say that this is sad and terrible, and I would destroy people that did this. But I have to acknowledge the loss on both sides.
    Quote Originally Posted by kbm8795 View Post
    Oh, I think Americans understand that the one thing conservatives hate the most is the idea of spending American tax money on Americans. . .in America.


    Your tax money is safe. . .in Iraq.
    Total ownage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl
    Newspeak, son. We tourture the enemy humanely.
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