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largepkg said:I'm all for it. I think it was a poor decision.
largepkg said:but...but...I voted for him.
bigss75 said:If the embryonic pushers would cut the crap and not force themselves on every stem cell bill we would have much better funding. "Adult" stem cells have been far more productive and the funding and attention should be given as such. And this isnt coming from a religious stand point, if they were going to toss the embryos from those fertiliy clinics anyway then use them but they arent productive, fund them in a couple more years after we have used other stem cells to the best of our abilities
SuperFlex said:me too... Twice! I wasn't going to vote the second term (after finding out what an idiot he is) but I folded due to peer pressure. I regreted it before I even did it... The ONLY reason I went ahead and voted was due to the moral issues. Honestly, I should have gone with my own instincts and stayed neutral on that election...
largepkg said:Well, it was either him or Mr. Personality(Kerry). I still believe I chose the lesser of two evils.
SuperFlex said:I know what you'll say, but I'd rather remain innocent in the matter.
Silargepkg said:Unfortunately, he is letting his religious beliefs interfere with his moral obligation.
SuperFlex said:I'm all for the advancement of medicine, but this is a touchy issue for several reasons...
What do you guys/gals think about it?
I'm open minded about it.
And now Arnold is,bigss75 said:Everyone is acting like he is banning stem cell research, the drug companies are have been funding it for along time now.
911=InsideJob said:Stem cells arnt living people. So why let humans suffer so that cells remain untouched just cuz he thinks those cells count as living beings?
SuperFlex said:Don't you think it's possible we're getting better results for adult stem cells because the funding is better? If more time and money is being poured into that then odds are we'll see more results... But hopefully adult stem cells are the way to go! All we need is another excuse for murdering babies...
lnvanry said:Also, stem cell science is purely speculative at this point. It has NO proven benefit....although it does have a strong potential.
bigss75 said:They might be able to regenarate beta cells from people with type one diabetes actually pretty soon.
SuperFlex said:I am against ending a life no matter how early. Sure 99.999999999999% of people grow up to be pieces of shit anyway, but it's still wrong... I could see this becoming an easy way to justify abortion. That's all I'm saying. Which IS legal murder... Now, when an embryo has died study the heck out of it!
When using donated unfertilized(outside of a womans body) eggs then fertilizing them it's a different story. Why not better our lives... I could also see this opening doors for genetic engineering and cloning.
maniclion said:And now Arnold is,
Schwarzenegger: State to lend stem cell effort $150 million
The Monkey Man said:Who cares what they have done or havent done!?!?
Even the speculation that it can do such positive things
should have been reason to pass the bill!
Bush receives orders from god...
I think David Koresh had that gift as well -
bigss75 said:Here is a paper from indiana state about adult stem cells http://www.stemcellresearch.org/old/Prentice-AdultStemCells.pdf
Asia has been studing all sorts of stem cell research and so far embryonic still has gotten little results. You drop embyros from funding (which will get its fair share of moeny from drug companies anyway) you have funding for stem cells, thus no need for Bush to veto.
911=InsideJob said:I don't think you can't count those embroyos as life. That would mean if a woman died thousands of living beings died with her. You feel me? The way I see it, life only begins when the egg and the sperm get together and start growing.