alright guys was just wanting to gte a discussion going about "working to failure" or "positive failure"
i have always tried to work to positive failure as far as i was concerned no mater what the weight or what the sets or reps, on the final rep in each set u should reach failure.
but today i was reading one for the articles on the main site about working to failure and it got me think about it
what do u guys think ?
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08-02-2006, 07:03 AM #1Registered User
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working to failure or positive failure
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I try to avoid it and use it very conservatively. Too taxing, I don't see the point of training with it that much. I don't need to go to failure to make progress, so I don't.
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how do u gage how hard ur working ?
Originally Posted by fufu
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08-02-2006, 07:32 AM #4Patrick ELITE MEMBER
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
RPEOptimum Sports Performance
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08-02-2006, 07:47 AM #5fiendish thingy ELITE MEMBER
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What, like intensity? I have a very good idea of what I am capable of so I base my reps/sets/intensity off of that. Originally Posted by Richie1888
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sorry mate im not with u ? Originally Posted by P-funk
fair enough i see what u mean mateWhat, like intensity? I have a very good idea of what I am capable of so I base my reps/sets/intensity off of that.When you play for Celtic forget the Jersey forget the club, your playing for a people and a cause.
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08-02-2006, 08:04 AM #7SHRUG LIKE YOU MEAN IT MODERATOR
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By your progress in terms of strength as the weeks go on. Originally Posted by Richie1888
Measure it not by how much you go to failure, but in terms of your 1RM. If i was doing 4 reps at my 4RM id go to failure, which i dont want to do, so id use my 5RM or 6RM instead.
I'm still working hard, but im not going to failure and placing that un-necessary stress on my muscles.
If i'm going for a PR attempt then maybe i will go a little heavier to my actual RM amount, but as a general rule you dont NEED to go to failure to see progress.http://www.getlifting.info
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08-02-2006, 08:16 AM #8Patrick ELITE MEMBER
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
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gauge yourself on a scale of 1-10. If I can bench press 100lbs for 12 reps and I am going to try for 3 sets of 10. I will take that 12RM (100lbs) and try and get all three sets of 10 with it.
set#1- RPE= 7 (okay, it was moderately tough. i left 2 reps in the clip)
set#2- RPE= 9 (alright, that was harder. I left maybe one rep in the clip)
set#3- RPE= 10 (fuck. that buried me. i couldn't have done one more rep if I wanted to)Optimum Sports Performance
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I think going to failure all the time is a big mistake people make, unless they want to drastically reduce the volume of their workouts to compensate.
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