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    To juice or to not

    Used to work out...
    Had good body size, good muscle strength etc etc.
    Quit... Haven't worked out in 3 years.

    While I was working out I was taking ph's, protein, creatine etc etc.
    Never a "real" or injectible steriod. (Even though some of the ph's may of truly been a steroid"

    As you may guess I lost all size and put some fat on my frame.

    My question is this:

    Starting back to working out, would I gain more in a short term period with steroids, or be about the same with out steriods.
    I'm fairly certain I alone produce a fair amount of Test with out the adding of extra test (steroids).

    Sooo would my gains be the same?, since obviously I'm not maxed out already.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musclesforme View Post
    Used to work out...
    I didn't have to read any more than that...

    Of course not!

    Ask again in a few years when your diet and routine are awesome and you have maxed out and aren't seeing gains anymore.

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    yes steriods will help u, but it is oviously a moronic idea on ur part
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    But, I've been with girls that had saggy chests and boring butts and they still had no personality. Those girls are usually really bitter. I think they realize they are useless.

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    Yes but why is a dumb thing to do?
    Why wait to do juice?
    That's what I don't understand.>
    Will it decrease my total growth over time?
    What are the downfalls of starting now?
    Just wasting money?

    Age 26, doubt I will grow anymore.

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    There is a limit to how fast you are going to grow, and if you haven't trained for 3 damn years you are going to get a lot of your old growth back. That is of course if you know how to eat and train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musclesforme View Post
    Yes but why is a dumb thing to do?
    Why wait to do juice?
    That's what I don't understand.>
    Will it decrease my total growth over time?
    What are the downfalls of starting now?
    Just wasting money?

    Age 26, doubt I will grow anymore.
    the health costs do not out weigh the benfits for a newbie
    Quote Originally Posted by Luke8395

    But, I've been with girls that had saggy chests and boring butts and they still had no personality. Those girls are usually really bitter. I think they realize they are useless.

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    Muscle has memory and you will regain what you lost very quickly. After a few more yeats under your belt then I would consider using.

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    Thanks for all the input.
    Hopefully it wont take as long as the first time.

    Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musclesforme View Post
    Thanks for all the input.
    Hopefully it wont take as long as the first time.

    Thanks guys
    According to Rob, its alot easier the second time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musclesforme View Post
    Age 26, doubt I will grow anymore.
    That's just a crazy opinion! I've lifted for over 15 years, although on and off and I've made better gains now that I'm 30 than I did when I was 18; both mass and strength wise.

    I've never used any AAS or PH or whatever you want to call the designer roids nowadays and I've continually gained. The secret? FOOD. I've read and taken most of everyone's advice on this site and other sites through the years and have steadily gained due to better eating habits.

    Most bodybuilders gain tons of mass well up into their 30's; more so than when they were 18-26. It's called experience; experience in lifting techinques, meal timing and choice, and the right supplements. Ask most on here, Tough, Mudge, Foreman, etc. when they made their most improvements. I betcha it's after they turned 25 years old.

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    I have to agree with cq. I have never made better gains in the last three years (since I really cleaned up my diet and ate the right foods). I'm 39 yrs old and I look and feel like I'm 20.
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    Fuck gear unless your old and need HRT

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    I would have to agree with Juggernaut and others expressing similiar opinions. I recently commenced training after a three year lay off. I'm now 36 and 5'10 and 75 kilos. I was previously 85 lean at my peak. I started back in the gym less than three months ago and I would certainly endorse Double D' s assertion that muscle has a memory, not to mention that while you might substantively "deflate"....some, if not all of your increased muscle density might be retained.

    I never used anything to assist my training bar eating really well and supplememting that will some clean whey protein shakes. In my experience most juicers dont really understand that morphing your physique starts inside your head. A truly amazing physique is one of the few things left you cannot buy. You have to put the work in.

    Steroids are a poor substitute for determination, bloody-mindedness and the ability to really channel your aggression at just the right time. Not to mention they give you tits, shrink your nads and make your eyes boggle.

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    Dont start juicin until at least AFTER you get back to the point where you were when you stopped. I lifted all throughout high school and supplemented with NO2, creatine, and whey religiously. I took about a year and a half off then started back up again. Within 3 months all the strength that I had lost came back (and this was without the NO2 or creatine).

    If you start juicin right off the bat your gonna fuck up your body worse than you can imagine. Your body will already be trying to get back into lifting again and juicin will just make it twice as hard on your liver.

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    i'm noy trying to throw punches but have any of you in the last three posts ever tried AAS, or are you going by what the media says? Because if you are, then shame on you.
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