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    First time in major league history

    Since they started keeping stats in 1871, there won't be a 20 game winner

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    Quote Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
    Since they started keeping stats in 1871, there won't be a 20 game winner
    We may never see a 300 game winner again.

    Who's closest Mussina?

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    Glavine is close with 289 and randy johnson has 280

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigss75 View Post
    Glavine is close with 289 and randy johnson has 280
    Mussina around 270?

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    I think around 240

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigss75 View Post
    Glavine is close with 289 and randy johnson has 280


    Mussina 238 and David Wells 229 are the next two active players.

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    Its hard to see randy getting to 300. Glavine maybe

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    Randy is only 20 off. Depends on how long he wants to keep his career going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post


    Mussina 238 and David Wells 229 are the next two active players.
    Pedro Martinez and Andy Pettite have a good chance in about 7-8 years.

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    This say's a lot the quality of pitching today, no wonder hitters are better nowadays.

    The babe would have a 100 homers by now.

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    Glavine will get there. Theres really no doubt there.

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    It's funny but a couple of years ago there was a bit of doubt as to whether he could ever get them as a Met.

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    It's funny but a couple of years ago there was a bit of doubt as to whether he could ever get them as a Met.
    I agreed then as well. I thought whenever he came over he was below average at best. To put it bluntly he stunk it up! But now not only has he turned it around so havent the mets. You know the saying "If one goes they all go".

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    Pitchers today are far better than the pitchers of yesteryear, it's just that the gap between hitter and pitcher is less. Babe wouldn't be able to cork his bat now, so my guess is more like 20 homers.

    The real problem is that 60 years ago, 1 maybe 2 pitchers pitched a game, nowadays 5 pitchers may pitch 9 innings, 3 at the very least.
    If sense were common, everyone would have it.

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    Whether or not Babe did cork his bat I dont know that we will ever know, but however he did swing a 51 ounce bat! And if he knew what the guys of today know he would've undoubtedly hit over 70 homers in a season.

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