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Why would you waste your money on that bs. You have found ironmagforums.com, now search, read, and learn. There is a million times more info on this site than you could ever fit in a p90x video.
Until you or anyone else gets the program and follows it you don't have anything worth saying. How can a person put down a program not to mention the people on the videos without having done it? None of those people are actors. The people on the videos are not athletes either. They have all gone through the program themselves. Ab ripper may sound like every other thing out there but it is not a walk in the park. The workout is super intense. All the workouts in P90X will make you work for it. As Tony says" This ain't some silly little class from the 70's. Everyone can have an opinion but don't trash P90x until you have gone through it. It will never quit working for you unless you quit. Nuff said
Until you or anyone else gets the program and follows it you don't have anything worth saying. How can a person put down a program not to mention the people on the videos without having done it? None of those people are actors. The people on the videos are not athletes either. They have all gone through the program themselves. Ab ripper may sound like every other thing out there but it is not a walk in the park. The workout is super intense. All the workouts in P90X will make you work for it. As Tony says" This ain't some silly little class from the 70's. Everyone can have an opinion but don't trash P90x until you have gone through it. It will never quit working for you unless you quit. Nuff said
Welcome back "Special" K. And by Special I mean the slow kind of special. Me big and bad, me wanna fight, me make fire, me don't like, me fight you. Kimora angry! Kimora smash! You do know that Anger is Fear announced! What are you afraid of? Oh I know, of being wrong, and folks here are proving you wrong, so your fear gets perverted into anger. Simple, from a simpleton.
How much I.Q. does it take to spout the nonsense that you repeat? I knew you couldn't resist! Humans are programmable, much like Pavlovs response. You're like a robot.
We're not talking about the navy seals or any other well institutionalize,fed, and well trained body of people, we're talking about lay-people and p90x.
But frankly I still could give a shit who does it. I don't care if Jesus Christ came down and said hey do p90. I'm gonna tell him why I don't recommend it and why. Then I'm gonna tell him and show him how he can achieve the same goals in a much safer fashion. Then we're both gonna laugh at you for falling for the marketing, then we're gonna laugh at you again for coming back to this thread and showing your ignorance, yet again. Don't you understand? You can't win this. Stop. Give up. You started off on the wrong foot. You could've corrected yourself but you choose to go down a road you can't navigate with your small and apparently crippled intuition.
I don't bench 400, and I can easily knock out 20+ pullups, at 260lbs, without cheating, oh I meant "kipping" like your holy grail P90 suggests.
Not only are you a pussy, but you're also gay! Stop looking at my dick dude! It's funny that you're talking all of this smack but clicking on my pic link and checking me out, in a sexual way. It's right at 8 inches and gets the job done. Ask your mom, after you clean up your room, then we'll go get you some ice cream if you're good, young immature boy. I could've been your dad but the German Shephard beat me to it! See ya later Gay boy. You wouldn't make it in the Navy Seals, "Don't ask, don't tell!"
Kimora:
And as someone else alluded to. What happens when you stop? How many people are gonna do p90x 3, 4 times a week for the next 5 years? Everyone thinks that weight is controlled by working out [...] I would rather someone do P90x as opposed to doing nothing.
I think this is a very important point that is lost on individuals who do not have sufficient experience to judge the lasting effectiveness of a diet and training regimen. Those inexperienced individuals see results, whether in friends or themselves, that ultimately are very ephemeral. Unfortunately, those individuals are not able to foresee or react to the effects of stopping the program upon its completion. Simply put, one can not participate in the level of activity expected of the program, especially while in a caloric deficit, for months and months and months at a time.
Those who use p90x as a primary form of training are ignorant towards what constitutes an effective training modality. I've been ignorant too. Fortunately, forums like this one exist to help educate those who want to be helped. There are plenty of deconditioned and uninformed people who come to forums like this one and ultimately get in excellent shape and become very knowledgeable on producing predictable results with repeatable programs that can be applied to a wide variety of individuals.
If you look through these p90x threads, there's always a typical pattern of posters. A person comes in and asks about the program, the forum members recommend against doing it, the person usually ignores the advice of the forum members and is never heard from again -- I've never seen them come back after 3 months to prove the forum members wrong...perhaps they are too busy enjoying their newfound leanness. Or, the individual sticks around and actually gets lean and strong.
Either way, you'll always get people who stop by to call the forum members brash idiots because they've seen 'results' for a few weeks. They'll put in a few posts full of strawman attacks and never end up actually giving a good argument. They ultimately just end up going away.
I think this is a very important point that is lost on individuals who do not have sufficient experience to judge the lasting effectiveness of a diet and training regimen. Those inexperienced individuals see results, whether in friends or themselves, that ultimately are very ephemeral. Unfortunately, those individuals are not able to foresee or react to the effects of stopping the program upon its completion. Simply put, one can not participate in the level of activity expected of the program, especially while in a caloric deficit, for months and months and months at a time.
Those who use p90x as a primary form of training are ignorant towards what constitutes an effective training modality. I've been ignorant too. Fortunately, forums like this one exist to help educate those who want to be helped. There are plenty of deconditioned and uninformed people who come to forums like this one and ultimately get in excellent shape and become very knowledgeable on producing predictable results with repeatable programs that can be applied to a wide variety of individuals.
If you look through these p90x threads, there's always a typical pattern of posters. A person comes in and asks about the program, the forum members recommend against doing it, the person usually ignores the advice of the forum members and is never heard from again -- I've never seen them come back after 3 months to prove the forum members wrong...perhaps they are too busy enjoying their newfound leanness. Or, the individual sticks around and actually gets lean and strong.
Either way, you'll always get people who stop by to call the forum members brash idiots because they've seen 'results' for a few weeks. They'll put in a few posts full of strawman attacks and never end up actually giving a good argument. They ultimately just end up going away.
we chose this program to take our fitness to the next level.
Every guy I know who did p90x lost strength and mass in the quest for abs.
My abs are still better then theirs.
Nuff said.
You bet, you surely did get 'er done.
Most who lose weight this way gain it all back. You took the essential step of learning other and better ways to train and diet.
Hi, I've been browsing around the internet seeing what other people think of the P90X program, and it's so interesting what the responses are. It seems as if many "super fit" people in general are skeptic about any program purchased off the TV being worth it. On the other hand, I've visited some forums where people were extra negative around 2007 and then the discussion steadily became very positive up til the present. Is this because the ultra fit already have the motivation to do it all themselves?
Anyway, I just completed P90X last week, and I'm really happy with the results. I was in pretty good shape beforehand, but it really got me to a whole new level of fitness without having to break my brain over what I should be doing. I published my befores and afters and impressions here: . I went from 12.6% body fat to 6.3%, and I got more definition.
I'm trying to figure out what to do next, though. Any thoughts on where I can start? My goal is to try new things, keep the intensity up, and see further all-around improvements in my body. I could use a little more size, but not much. I like lean muscle definition and staying generally flexible and athletic.
How does it work to where you gain it back fast? I'm seriously pigging out and nearly doubled my calorie intake and I'm not gaining any weight
How many calories are you eating now, what do you weigh, how much did you lose, and how long did it take you? Also how long have your calories been this high and how are you training now?
I hate to even post here again, but just an update. A whole shitload of us on my oil rig started working out together a little over a year ago. Me and one other guy went with lifting/diet etc, the other 10 or so went with P90x.
Now don't get me wrong, the guys that stuck with it got good results, but me and the other dude got a lot bigger and a lot leaner with a lot less work.
Now 1.5 years later, most of them have stopped, and several of them lift with me now, and those guys are getting accused of being juiced since they are rapidly getting bigger/stronger than the other P90x fellas.
This just sort of backed up my theory that P90x is worlds better than sitting on your ass, but if you have enough dedication and drive to follow that program, you should have more than enough to do some research and put together a decent program.
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