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    How About Some Solutions?



    How About Some Solutions?

    Ok Nancy, Ted, John, Joseph, Harry and all the rest of the Democratic party
    that has recently swept into power with promises of doing something
    meaningful about Iraq. Where are the new ideas? Where are the innovations?
    Where are the solutions?

    All I'm hearing is the same old junk about pulling out. Is that it?
    Is that the only idea you have?

    Ok, say we pull out. What then? You claim the President got us into a
    situation without an exit strategy. Where is your exit strategy? Where is
    your solution to what would happen if you were to suddenly pull out or set a date to pull tens of thousands of troops out of the Persian Gulf?

    What happens when Iran marches into Iraq and by extension into Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? What happens when the flow of Middle Eastern oil is
    controlled by the radical imams?

    How will you handle the incredible flow of refugees resulting from our
    abandonment of our allies? Where can they all go? Is there room at the
    Kennedy compound for a couple of million extra guests?

    You can easily accomplish the pull out by simply cutting off the funding for
    the war. You have the numbers, yes you have the numbers, but you just don't have the guts do you?

    Because you know that the minute you end the funding you own this war and despite all your ranting, raving, posturing, name-calling and caustic
    criticism that is the last thing in the world you want, isn't it?

    Why? Because, the truth be known, you have no idea how to handle it, do you?

    You really don't want to own or even manage this war, you just want to sit
    on the sidelines and criticize it. The truth be known you don't have
    anything but poll results, you really don't have a plan do you?

    Of course, you could always put it into the battle hardened hands of Nancy
    Polosi. No wait, that wouldn't work, they don't even allow recruitment on
    the campuses in her district.

    So are you really going to do what you were elected for or are you going to
    put this one in the closet with the rest of your unkept campaign promises?

    You know what I think? I think that if, overnight, this war was dumped into
    your collective laps you as a party would panic. If all of a sudden you woke up one morning with the headlines in the Washington Post screaming, Democrats now fully in charge of Iraq War, Press Conference at noon today to find out dem war plans, most of you would probably go on vacation or call in sick.

    I don't think you have a plan. And I don't think you have the guts to grab
    this tiger by the tail.

    Time to step up to the plate, but watch that curve ball, it's a booger.

    Pray for our troops.

    What do you think?

    God Bless America

    Charlie Daniels
    January 19, 2007




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    Like I've said before, the Democrats have turned into bitch and moan party. They spend all of their time complaining but come up with no workable solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post


    How About Some Solutions?

    Ok Nancy, Ted, John, Joseph, Harry and all the rest of the Democratic party
    that has recently swept into power with promises of doing something
    meaningful about Iraq. Where are the new ideas? Where are the innovations?
    Where are the solutions?

    All I'm hearing is the same old junk about pulling out. Is that it?
    Is that the only idea you have?

    Ok, say we pull out. What then? You claim the President got us into a
    situation without an exit strategy. Where is your exit strategy? Where is
    your solution to what would happen if you were to suddenly pull out or set a date to pull tens of thousands of troops out of the Persian Gulf?

    What happens when Iran marches into Iraq and by extension into Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? What happens when the flow of Middle Eastern oil is
    controlled by the radical imams?

    How will you handle the incredible flow of refugees resulting from our
    abandonment of our allies? Where can they all go? Is there room at the
    Kennedy compound for a couple of million extra guests?

    You can easily accomplish the pull out by simply cutting off the funding for
    the war. You have the numbers, yes you have the numbers, but you just don't have the guts do you?

    Because you know that the minute you end the funding you own this war and despite all your ranting, raving, posturing, name-calling and caustic
    criticism that is the last thing in the world you want, isn't it?

    Why? Because, the truth be known, you have no idea how to handle it, do you?

    You really don't want to own or even manage this war, you just want to sit
    on the sidelines and criticize it. The truth be known you don't have
    anything but poll results, you really don't have a plan do you?

    Of course, you could always put it into the battle hardened hands of Nancy
    Polosi. No wait, that wouldn't work, they don't even allow recruitment on
    the campuses in her district.

    So are you really going to do what you were elected for or are you going to
    put this one in the closet with the rest of your unkept campaign promises?

    You know what I think? I think that if, overnight, this war was dumped into
    your collective laps you as a party would panic. If all of a sudden you woke up one morning with the headlines in the Washington Post screaming, Democrats now fully in charge of Iraq War, Press Conference at noon today to find out dem war plans, most of you would probably go on vacation or call in sick.

    I don't think you have a plan. And I don't think you have the guts to grab
    this tiger by the tail.

    Time to step up to the plate, but watch that curve ball, it's a booger.

    Pray for our troops.

    What do you think?

    God Bless America

    Charlie Daniels
    January 19, 2007
    The utter audacity of this man knows no bounds. How do you like them apples?

    The Bush gang creates false evidience of Iraq'a WMDS; Bush et al. said the democrats saw the same evidence of WMDS (that we created); They invade a sovereign Iraq perpetrating war crimes and violations of our constitution

    and now

    the Democrats have to clean up his fucking mess....just like Clinton had to clean up Reagan's economic mess.

    Back on topic, it's a cliche, but line up all the supporters of Bush's war and ship their asses to Iraq. Give some of these soldiers on their 3rd and 4th tours a break. That sounds nice but really, we are bankrupting our own country, making the world much less safe, and sacrificing thousands of our own people--sons, daughters, mothers, fathers--because of the ongoing war crime.

    Anyway, this thick skulled mongoloid aka Charlie Daniels knows as much about international politics as he does about making good music. Zing. He doesn't see a viable democratic plan because he doesn't look. That's how his mind has been conditioned to work by rightwing propaganda.
    http://www.comw.org/pda/0512exitplans.html
    Knock yourself out Charlie.

    This intellectual embarrassment and walking epitome of the decline of modern education thinks he knows the "truth." Adding more troops to the meat grinder is not a plan, it's 'stay the course' and it will work just as well as it worked in that other guerilla war known as Viet Nam.

    Thank goodness the people on this forum see right through this transparent shitbag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decker View Post
    The utter audacity of this man knows no bounds. How do you like them apples?

    The Bush gang creates false evidience of Iraq'a WMDS; Bush et al. said the democrats saw the same evidence of WMDS (that we created); They invade a sovereign Iraq perpetrating war crimes and violations of our constitution

    and now

    the Democrats have to clean up his fucking mess....just like Clinton had to clean up Reagan's economic mess.

    Back on topic, it's a cliche, but line up all the supporters of Bush's war and ship their asses to Iraq. Give some of these soldiers on their 3rd and 4th tours a break. That sounds nice but really, we are bankrupting our own country, making the world much less safe, and sacrificing thousands of our own people--sons, daughters, mothers, fathers--because of the ongoing war crime.

    Anyway, this thick skulled mongoloid aka Charlie Daniels knows as much about international politics as he does about making good music. Zing. He doesn't see a viable democratic plan because he doesn't look. That's how his mind has been conditioned to work by rightwing propaganda.
    http://www.comw.org/pda/0512exitplans.html
    Knock yourself out Charlie.

    This intellectual embarrassment and walking epitome of the decline of modern education thinks he knows the "truth." Adding more troops to the meat grinder is not a plan, it's 'stay the course' and it will work just as well as it worked in that other guerilla war known as Viet Nam.

    Thank goodness the people on this forum see right through this transparent shitbag.
    AGAIN, just thumbing through these, all I see is more finger pointing and blame, with absolutley no plan to do anything other than withdraw the troops. Polosi and her crowd will be the worst congress ever.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    AGAIN, just thumbing through these, all I see is more finger pointing and blame, with absolutley no plan to do anything other than withdraw the troops. Polosi and her crowd will be the worst congress ever.

    Please don't say that. Please! Bush is a disgusting failure. The entire last 8 years has been a disaster.
    Fucking Determined!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Please don't say that. Please! Bush is a disgusting failure. The entire last 8 years has been a disaster.
    And you actually think Kerry would have done a better job? Actually Sadaam would still be in power and in the place that Iran is getting ready to be in until we take them out! Stennis is on the way with the second battle group for the region with a arsenal of Patriot missles. I hope they got a shitload of Tomahawks!




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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    And you actually think Kerry would have done a better job? Actually Sadaam would still be in power and in the place that Iran is getting ready to be in until we take them out! Stennis is on the way with the second battle group for the region with a arsenal of Patriot missles. I hope they got a shitload of Tomahawks!
    It is difficult for me to conceive of anyone doing a job as bad or worse than GW Bush has done.

    War with Iran is insane. It's the Iraqi rationale all over again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    And you actually think Kerry would have done a better job? Actually Sadaam would still be in power and in the place that Iran is getting ready to be in until we take them out! Stennis is on the way with the second battle group for the region with a arsenal of Patriot missles. I hope they got a shitload of Tomahawks!
    Maybe or Maybe not. Nobody could know, but I think using that excuse is a cop-out.
    Fucking Determined!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    AGAIN, just thumbing through these, all I see is more finger pointing and blame, with absolutley no plan to do anything other than withdraw the troops. Polosi and her crowd will be the worst congress ever.
    Exit Strategy: How to Disengage From Iraq in 18 Months
    Barry R. Posen. Boston Review, January/February 2006.
    With comments by Barbara Bodine, Joseph Biden, Vivek Chibber, Russell Feingold, Randall Forsberg, Lawrence Korb and Brian Katulis, Helena Cobban, Christopher Preble, Eliot Weinberger, Nir Rosen and with response by Barry R. Posen.

    There is a little more than finger pointing and blame in that article, correct?

    Where is the republican plan for fixing this mess may I ask?

    Or is troop escalation the only rabbit in the hat?

    Sort of like the only way the economy can be fixed is through tax cuts largely benefitting the wealthy.

    The republicans have no credible plan. Just push the problem onto the next administration by staying the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    And you actually think Kerry would have done a better job? Actually Sadaam would still be in power and in the place that Iran is getting ready to be in until we take them out! Stennis is on the way with the second battle group for the region with a arsenal of Patriot missles. I hope they got a shitload of Tomahawks!
    Saddam Hussein would still be in power.

    There would be relative stability in the middle east.

    There would be 3000 and 100,000 people very grateful for life.

    There would be billions of dollars still in US coffers.

    The US would still have a semblance of a national reputation.

    On a simple cost/benefit analysis, this war is huge failure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decker View Post

    On a simple cost/benefit analysis, this war is huge failure.

    I agree a 100%.
    Fucking Determined!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decker View Post
    Where is the republican plan for fixing this mess may I ask?
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    Stay the course is just as bad a plan as get the fuck out.....


    What really needs to be done is start teaching these people how to rebuild their own damn country, get rid of the corrupt Iraqi army leaders who use ghost soldiers to filch extra payroll money for either supporting their religious sect or their own personal wealth, instead setup a system where each "real" soldier has a card with a microchip much like the ones our troops have to get into the mess halls, but instead make these troops have to present their cards at secure military banks where they can get their paychecks.....next train these guys to be soldiers and not Police......and start patrolling in tanks instead of Humvees that are easily blown up by IED's......next mix Iraqi soldiers with our soldiers make them do the heavy fighting and use our troops strictly as support...every time I see a video of our troops in action I don't see any Iraqi troops.....
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    Oh yeah and institute the draft in Iraq, mandatory 2 year service for every one 20 years of age to 30 years of age...
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