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    5x5 or leg/push/pull

    Im a noob to bodybuilding. I am doing it for football. So should I do leg/push/pull? or 5x5?

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    Football? I would do something that is for strength which would be 5x5.

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    thats what I was thinking, but as I was reading it said not for noobs. But I think I woulld trust you more because you sound like you know what your doing.

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    Well I think it can be used for someone just starting I mean hell it has the main compound movements. And thats exactly what you are going to incorporate into a push/legs/pull routine. However do read up on it ALOT before starting.

    Actually......you maybe better off starting with a fullbody routine 3 days a week just for starters.

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    If you are a newbie don't do 5x5.

    You can't train for strength and power without proper stability, technique and a base level.

    Get in the gym and do some basic things.





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    Total body P?

    I know whenever I start out I did total body things just to form a base strength.

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    I like total body pretty much all the time. Rarely do I break it up. I just think it is a great way to go.





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    I remember just starting out doing the basics, squat, bench, and all kinds of bodyweight things:Pushups, pullups (which of course I still do), BW Lunges (Especially to get the form down first), dips, etc.

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    Monday
    Squat 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)
    Bench 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)
    Barbell Row 3 weeks power cleans 3 weeks and snatches 3 weeks 5x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5 (which should equal the previous Friday's heavy triple)
    Assistance: abs



    Wednesday
    Squat 4x5 First 3 sets are the same as Monday, the 4th set is repeating the 3rd set again
    Incline or Military 4x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5
    Deadlift 3 weeks high pulls 3 weeks 4x5 Ramping weight to top set of 5
    Assistance: abs



    Friday
    Squat 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8
    Bench 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8
    Barbell Row 3 weeks high pulls 3 weeks snatches 3 weeks 4x5, 1x3, 1x8 First 4 sets are the same as Monday's, the triple is 2.5% above your Monday top set of 5, use the weight from the 3rd set for a final set of 8
    Assistance: abs

    what do you think of this? also I would like to add in clean and press and clean and jerk.

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    Well like P said dont do it. Do some compound movements and do more of a beginner program. We both agreed on a total body program.

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    do you have someone to coach you on olympic lifts? Do you have someone to coach you on basic lifts like squats.

    I don't think that is the best program to start with. Lay a functional base first, then train strength, then train power. Don't just jump right in with intensive training.





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    Oh and I did want to clear something up, I didnt see you said you were a noob, I thought you said you wasnt for some dumb reason.

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    well. I should clarify real quick.
    to answer the question of me being a noob. I am a noob to weight lifting, but I have been doing bodyweight for a while and I am in pretty good shape.
    and for the oly lifts and compound lifts. I have already learned them and I know how to do them well. Whatm workout do you recomend for me then?

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    I can't write a workout for someone i don't know.

    I am not there to see you move to know what you need.

    You have to take the general information we give here and apply it to yourself.

    I would look at when your football pre-season starts and plan back from there in specific phases with specific goals.





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    O i dont want you to write a workout for me. But you think I should definetly not do the 5x5? mayby starting strentgh bye ripptoe?

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