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    Why can some bands create a good album or hit song...

    ...that everyone connects with... yet somehow they can never reproduce the same effect?






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    Awesome thread but I dont really know the answer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
    ...that everyone connects with... yet somehow they can never reproduce the same effect?






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    They're one-hit-wonders. They have one great idea, but arent creative enough to come up with a second great idea, or they get jaded by the music business and this taints their judgement on what is actually great.

    See: Metallica.





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    Good answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDyl View Post
    Good answer.
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    I always like to think that there is a song (or poem) in everybody worthy of being a big hit. Some people find theirs and become one-hit wonders. The long lasting artists are more creatively gifted than the norm so can rise up above this limitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    They're one-hit-wonders. They have one great idea, but arent creative enough to come up with a second great idea, or they get jaded by the music business and this taints their judgement on what is actually great.

    See: Metallica.
    Metallica has been around for over 20 years with tens of millions of albums sold. I hardly call them one hit wonders. Judgement impaired...maybe.
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    Perhaps these bands have used all of their best material and songs with the deepest meaning they have come up with over long periods of time and they get signed for having some good stuff that they may have been writing since high-school.There is pressure to put out a follow up so they don't have the time to put the energy and emotion into it because they are jotting down words that may rhyme but they don't feel them so the heart of the band isn't "in it".The follow up material is probably done in a year or so while the original may have taken several years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ponyboy View Post
    Metallica has been around for over 20 years with tens of millions of albums sold. I hardly call them one hit wonders. Judgement impaired...maybe.
    No, they fall under the second category (Jaded by the 'biz).

    Though only the one album (Puppets) really "spoke" to me. The two before it were just building up to Puppets, Justice was pretty good but not quite as awesome, and from the Black Album onwards it all went to hell, culminating in St Anger, which is one of the worst "metal" albums ive heard in a while.

    Though Slayer's Christ Illusion comes close in the "Dissapointing Comeback Albums" category. The only thing that saves it is that the sound of the record is decent, its just the songs that suck.

    The only thing post-Puppets that Metallica have done that i truly enjoy was the S+M version of For Whom The Bell Tolls. If i ever get drafted into the military i want that version of the track playing when im out there. Its inspiring as fuck.





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    Quote Originally Posted by zombul View Post
    Perhaps these bands have used all of their best material and songs with the deepest meaning they have come up with over long periods of time and they get signed for having some good stuff that they may have been writing since high-school.
    There was one thing Devin Townsend (see:genius) said like that, something along the lines of "Most bands write their best material when they're young, because they're angry as fuck, but when they get older they mellow out and its not quite as good anymore."

    Which is kinda true i think.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    No, they fall under the second category (Jaded by the 'biz).

    Though only the one album (Puppets) really "spoke" to me. The two before it were just building up to Puppets, Justice was pretty good but not quite as awesome, and from the Black Album onwards it all went to hell, culminating in St Anger, which is one of the worst "metal" albums ive heard in a while.

    Though Slayer's Christ Illusion comes close in the "Dissapointing Comeback Albums" category. The only thing that saves it is that the sound of the record is decent, its just the songs that suck.

    The only thing post-Puppets that Metallica have done that i truly enjoy was the S+M version of For Whom The Bell Tolls. If i ever get drafted into the military i want that version of the track playing when im out there. Its inspiring as fuck.

    What are you on about? Although not the greatest fan, Ride the Lightening to The Black album were generally high quality. St Anger was rubbish, mainly due to the new bassist and that really shitty de-tuned sound that is far too rife in metal these days. So much so that i hardly listen to metal anymore. The snare drums sound on St Anger was crap too (to be pedantic). I don't think I've heard one song by anyone that is good with that shitty bass sound.

    Bang on about From whom the bell tolls....that's made to be a war soundtrack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goob View Post
    What are you on about? Although not the greatest fan, Ride the Lightening to The Black album were generally high quality. St Anger was rubbish, mainly due to the new bassist and that really shitty de-tuned sound that is far too rife in metal these days. So much so that i hardly listen to metal anymore. The snare drums sound on St Anger was crap too (to be pedantic). I don't think I've heard one song by anyone that is good with that shitty bass sound.

    Bang on about From whom the bell tolls....that's made to be a war soundtrack.
    Ride The Lightening was awesome, Kill Em All i wasnt a HUGE fan of for some reason, but Seek And Destroy is one of my favourite metal songs.

    Im not saying those two albums are shit, i just meant they were paving the way for the much much better Puppets.

    As for the Black Album, meh. I'll agree to Disagree with everybody on that one, because i just dislike 90% of everything that album is. The 10% i do like is Enter Sandman, haha.

    But yeah, St Anger is universally despised i think.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    Ride The Lightening was awesome, Kill Em All i wasnt a HUGE fan of for some reason, but Seek And Destroy is one of my favourite metal songs.

    Im not saying those two albums are shit, i just meant they were paving the way for the much much better Puppets.

    As for the Black Album, meh. I'll agree to Disagree with everybody on that one, because i just dislike 90% of everything that album is. The 10% i do like is Enter Sandman, haha.

    But yeah, St Anger is universally despised i think.
    Fair enough, I agree that the first two were building blocks for Puppets, which was superior. Most I know love the black album. Ok, it's a little softer, but the quality of songwriting is excellent throughout, so much so, that I would possibly consider it to be their best work.
    I always thought they were at their best mixing classical guitar techniques with metal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goob View Post
    Fair enough, I agree that the first two were building blocks for Puppets, which was superior. Most I know love the black album. Ok, it's a little softer, but the quality of songwriting is excellent throughout, so much so, that I would possibly consider it to be their best work.
    I always thought they were at their best mixing classical guitar techniques with metal.

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