Measuring weight of meat for intakes - cooked or uncooked? + Relevance of hunger

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    Measuring weight of meat for intakes - cooked or uncooked? + Relevance of hunger

    I've been eating over 150g protein by 2:30pm last few days, and have been hungry every 2hrs max, I'm only planning on eating 200g/day, (80kg, 2g/kg bw is only 160g protein) On a bulk, and this coincided with 400g carbs by 2:30pm as well. I am working long hours as a PT, so this may have an effect (yesterday was 15hrs, wednesday will be the same)

    But, I measure my chicken UNcooked. 1kg from butcher, cook it all up, portion out.

    Am I actually having less than I should, or am I just a really hungry bastard lately?

    Which brings me to my 2nd point - Hunger. Do I listen to my body and eat whenever Im hungry on a bulk, even if it means going way over planned/expected intakes or stick to the plan?

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    i measure mine uncooked. if you on a clean bulk then go ahead and eat. i'd eat like steaks or a packet of beef jerkey(high in protein) or a protein bar. or have some fruits.

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    so do i, but is that correct and the industry standard?

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    Hello slip. What part of the chicken are you eating, and what is your intended daily caloric intake set at? I'd add that the sites I use to figure my intake offer different nutritional results according to how it was prepared if that helps.

    www.fitday.com

    Amount Per 1 cup, cooked, diced, roasted
    Total Fat 4.78g 7%
    Saturated Fat 1.35g 7%
    Polyunsaturated Fat 1.03g
    Monounsaturated Fat 1.66g
    Cholesterol 113.79mg 38%
    Sodium
    534.92mg 22%
    Potassium
    342.81mg 10%
    Total Carbohydrate 0g 0%
    Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
    Protein
    41.53g 83%
    Alcohol
    0g

    Figure 4 cups per kg ... 0.9464kg to be precise.
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    breast, no skin.

    fat 70g 630cal
    carb 400g+ 1600cal+
    protein 200g 800cal

    Bout 3000, bit over if i carb up.

    I'll check out that fitday thing, though a cup of chicken isnt really a good measure......

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    I had 1kg uncooked workout out to 280g protein, whereas by your calculations it would only be around 165g.

    This is a major difference.

    How do all you guys measure your chicken/meat to work out protein contents?

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    IMHO baked/broiled then weigh it.

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    Well after looking at those sites no wonder I'm still f*ing hungry. The nutrition readings I have been given by a dietitian were stating 28g protein / 100g uncooked, and looks like this is way off.

    Shit.

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    Try PM'ing Jodi ... she knows of a better site than fitday. I started with fitday and don't wanna move now but I recall her mentioning a few months ago that she knew of a site that was better than fitday for some reason so maybe you can give that a shot just for S&G's.

    It was an eye opener when I first came here and began comparing the things I had "learned" from local trainers and doctors to what was common knowledge with the locals at IM. LOL ... this is a weeeeee bit cheaper too. How much is an elite membership these days? You'll get your diet tweaked out in no time slip.

    Meanwhile keep up the good work slip you sound very dedicated ... that's good to see.

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    Yeah, still got a lot to learn, but the foods I eat are pretty set up, love it all, and don't really cheat/drink etc. Its just making sure I'm eating the right amounts now, and getting into carb cycling, loading up etc

    Thanks for going to the effort of setting up the pm hotlink bonecrusher, much appreciated mate.

    Now I get to eat more meat. Sweeeeet.

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    Calorieking.com is a great one too!

    The best however comes with an awesome little device. (I'm not posting it, because I don't get paid for selling them and I don't want to spam up this great forum)

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    Thanks guys.

    Interestingly, I've still put on a number of kg's. Probably would have stayed a bit leaner with more protein/fat and less carbs, see how we go next cycle. Still have visible abs after packing on over 2kg in 2wks. Woot!

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    slip, when I used to weigh my food I weighed the chicken after cooking it. The difference in weight before cooking is mostly water.

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    I hate fitday because of the gay measuring. example cup of chicken. lol. BTW. is beef jerky actually healthy? what about all the sodium and MSG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by slip View Post
    Thanks guys.

    Interestingly, I've still put on a number of kg's. Probably would have stayed a bit leaner with more protein/fat and less carbs, see how we go next cycle. Still have visible abs after packing on over 2kg in 2wks. Woot!
    Well done. Our little victories make a huge difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    I hate fitday because of the gay measuring. example cup of chicken. lol. BTW. is beef jerky actually healthy? what about all the sodium and MSG?
    I don't use FitDay but I know NutritionData includes measurements by weight (I believe it's in grams). I don't know how much MSG they put in beef jerky if any, but yes, it is typically high in sodium but is also high in protein. I believe I have heard someone mention "low-sodium beef jerky." However, I have never seen it around.

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    After looking through these and trying the various tools and experience the overall ease of use www.nutritionaldata.com worked best for me. Measurement conversion tools were only one of many things that stood out as indispensable.
    www.calorieking.com yielded a greater number of responses after search queries, and offered great nutritional data. For example I like Welch's guava pineapple juice. ND came up a blank, while CK gave me data.


    Thanks for the links ... I'm sure I'll migrate to one of them from fitday.
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    so if I get no msg beef jerky it isactualy healthy for me?

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    just looked back, and realised i started creatine 2wks ago as well, so hello water weight.

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