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    lat pulldown size matter

    im wondering im 6'5 and my frend who i work out with is about 5'9. he can deadlift about 50lbs more than me and i can lat pulldown over 50lbs more than him. is this cause i weigh more since if he tries to pull it down it lifts him up.?

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    no

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    Not unless your form is total madness and you're jerking that bar down with your entire body.

    Generally speaking, smaller people have better leverages and a decreased ROM. Bigger folks tend to have a higher absolute power output.

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    i pull the bar down fine at 160 no jerking and he can only do about 100. im skinnier than him but i guess my back is just strong

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    I just wouldnt bother with that machine unless you cant do a pullup. Not that I dont throw it into my workout, but youre speaking of comparisons.

    I know you want to know about height vs. strength, but its not something you should worry about at any moment during self-improvement.

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    160 and 6 5 equals can't do one, IMHO.

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    Moreover... what do machine hating guys do when pull ups are way to easy? My gym doesn't have a waist belt you can hook weights to. I can do over 20 at 216 what am I suppose to do besides use the lat machine?

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    Trying to compare your strength between these two exercises makes no sense. They are totally different motor patterns, and they involve very different muscle groups as their prime movers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoglander View Post
    Moreover... what do machine hating guys do when pull ups are way to easy? My gym doesn't have a waist belt you can hook weights to. I can do over 20 at 216 what am I suppose to do besides use the lat machine?
    Buy a belt or use a standard backpack to put weight in. Thats what i do and it works great.

    I also know people who hook a Dumbell between their calves and do it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp View Post
    Trying to compare your strength between these two exercises makes no sense. They are totally different motor patterns, and they involve very different muscle groups as their prime movers.
    Care to elaborate? I'd put it in the FAQ since this is probably new information for a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoglander View Post
    Moreover... what do machine hating guys do when pull ups are way to easy? My gym doesn't have a waist belt you can hook weights to. I can do over 20 at 216 what am I suppose to do besides use the lat machine?
    Try different grips.
    Do negatives.
    L pullups
    Typewriters (even though they look like windshield wipers)
    One arm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CowPimp View Post
    Trying to compare your strength between these two exercises makes no sense. They are totally different motor patterns, and they involve very different muscle groups as their prime movers.
    I wouldnt say theyre totally different at all.

    How it works is different, but the movement of the musculature is about the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    I wouldnt say theyre totally different at all.

    How it works is different, but the movement of the musculature is about the same.
    Lat Pulldown:

    Muscles
    Target

    Latissimus Dorsi

    Synergists

    Brachialis
    Brachioradialis
    Biceps Brachii
    Teres Major
    Deltoid, Posterior
    Infraspinatus
    Teres Minor
    Rhomboids
    Levator Scapulae
    Trapezius, Lower
    Trapezius, Middle
    Pectoralis Minor

    Dynamic Stabilizers

    Triceps, Long Head

    ***

    Pull Up:

    Target

    Latissimus Dorsi

    Synergists

    Brachialis
    Brachioradialis
    Biceps Brachii
    Teres Major
    Rhomboids
    Levator Scapulae
    Trapezius, Lower
    Pectoralis Major, Sternal
    Pectoralis Minor

    Dynamic Stabilizers

    Triceps, Long Head

    ***

    The muscles they use are slightly different at least.

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    Good Ideas, thanks. I'm two pin pegs from looking for alternatives.

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