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    We may end up seeing free universal health care sometime in our lifetime, especially if a democrat wins this term around. Are you for or against it?

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    Ugh. Good question. I have always had health care. I was a student until I was 20 so I had it under my parents. I got a job right after that and had benefits through them. They were expensive. Like 160$/month. I thought it was expensive for a 21 year old single guy. Now at my new job they pay for all benefits which is sweet. I can't really identify with the lower class when it comes to that. I was born into a family of working middle class parents. I then got a job and always had benefits. Now, with that said, do I think we should have universal health care? I say no. It will probably cost us tax payers, people that actually fuckin work, a piss load of more money and the quality will go down. I don't agree with young kids dieing of ear aches though. Its a tough decision. I say we go back to natural selection. Let nature take its course and weed out the meek.

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    the heath care industry needs a major overhaul no doubt. im just not convinced governmental heath care is the way to go to fix it. the government doesnt do things very efficiently in my book. i would like to see the government pass laws that put more power and decision making in the hands of the consumer. i understand this would hurt the health care industry some, but i want them to lean out a little bit. see what happens when good old fashioned competition forces them to fight for buisness

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    Even if we had universal health care, it would just be like Britain where you would still pay for private health care if you could afford it. Universal Health care means even Longer waiting times. Not only that, but now instead of paying for your own health care you're also paying for another persons health care.

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    If it is free to everyone, who pays for it?




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    Fuck insurance companies! I told those crooks to cancel my shitty insurance today. I go to fill a prescription and it cost $400 with insurance. What the fuck am I paying for? I told those fuckers at BCBS to go fuck themselves and I was ordering my shit from Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Fuck insurance companies! I told those crooks to cancel my shitty insurance today. I go to fill a prescription and it cost $400 with insurance. What the fuck am I paying for? I told those fuckers at BCBS to go fuck themselves and I was ordering my shit from Canada.
    You'll be paying a lot more if there is universal health care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Fuck insurance companies! I told those crooks to cancel my shitty insurance today. I go to fill a prescription and it cost $400 with insurance. What the fuck am I paying for? I told those fuckers at BCBS to go fuck themselves and I was ordering my shit from Canada.
    What do you think it will be without Ins.?




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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    What do you think it will be without Ins.?

    A heck of alot cheaper he is ordering from Canada





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    Ideally some sort of two tiered system would make sense. However the universal health care would be dependant on your ability to take care of yourself. ie. no smoking, proper diet.

    If you can't take care of yourself, why should you get universal coverage.





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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    What do you think it will be without Ins.?
    $500 with insurance, $400 without. I'm paying $200.00 a month for a group plan through the company I work for. I got my prescriptions filled for $6.00 a piece last time, now it went up to $400.00.
    Fucking Determined!

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    I don't want universal coverage for the reasons mentioned above. Longer wait times, paying for people who can't afford it. I get livid just thinking about insurance companies just like Kelju's. There has to be something done about them jacking up unreasonable prescription costs and premiums. My wife has coverage provided free through her work, but it would be and extra $500/month for me to be on the plan.
    I am very fortunate though in that when I become a union member at my work, my coverage will be 100% paid. No copays, no referrals, $1 prescriptions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    $500 with insurance, $400 without. I'm paying $200.00 a month for a group plan through the company I work for. I got my prescriptions filled for $6.00 a piece last time, now it went up to $400.00.
    So you are paying $200 a month and you want them to pick up your $400 medicine? To me this is the problem, people view insurance as that parent who pays things we can't afford. That money has to come from somewhere.
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    The future will be something similar to Health Savings Accounts. Insurance pays for big issues - kicks in at $5,000 or so for families....but until you hit that max, YOU pay.

    Insurance companies do suck. Don't get me wrong. But far too many people expect the insurance company to lose money on them.

    We just switched to high deductible insurance with savings accounts for all of our employees and are very happy with it. The 30%/year increases in standard insurance was killing us.
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