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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Im with you on that one. My ex defined why she goes for ugly guys over good looking guys and without getting into detail, she said it was insecurity.

    In all reality, Ive always noticed fat/ugly women being more direct than more attractive girls. Attractive girls dont have to do any approaching. In fact, they dont do as much "checking out."

    Whether when I was small or now, Ive always had 5 fat girls hit on me to 1 hot girl.

    Personally, I want a girl that IS hot. I dont use self-defeat thoughts about not ever getting one either. It baffles me when i see hot girls with ridiculous looking hookups. However, everyone knows, that that guy would do ANYTHING for her...cuz what are the chances an average guy would get ANOTHER hot girl again?
    Damn good attitude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Im with you on that one. My ex defined why she goes for ugly guys over good looking guys and without getting into detail, she said it was insecurity.

    In all reality, Ive always noticed fat/ugly women being more direct than more attractive girls. Attractive girls dont have to do any approaching. In fact, they dont do as much "checking out."

    Whether when I was small or now, Ive always had 5 fat girls hit on me to 1 hot girl.

    Personally, I want a girl that IS hot. I dont use self-defeat thoughts about not ever getting one either. It baffles me when i see hot girls with ridiculous looking hookups. However, everyone knows, that that guy would do ANYTHING for her...cuz what are the chances an average guy would get ANOTHER hot girl again?


    Girls don't care about looks as much as us guys do. That ridiculous hookup probably had other things to offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Girls don't care about looks as much as us guys do.
    I think you're correct, to an extent. I think the big difference in women, versus men, is that they're less likely to go after someone that's out of their league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Girls don't care about looks as much as us guys do. That ridiculous hookup probably had other things to offer.
    That's what they SAY anyway. I honestly don't think that's totally true. I have a college degree, a really good job, etc., and I can't get a girlfriend for shit. I'm not saying I'm all that amazing or anything but I've got more to offer than the average joe especially in the town I live in. And other than having a nice body I'm really not that attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortrit View Post
    That's what they SAY anyway. I honestly don't think that's totally true. I have a college degree, a really good job, etc., and I can't get a girlfriend for shit. I'm not saying I'm all that amazing or anything but I've got more to offer than the average joe especially in the town I live in. And other than having a nice body I'm really not that attractive.
    You'd be surprised how much a very confident attitude will add to your attractiveness. Women are more attune to body language than men are. They can sense a confident man.

    So, how's your self-confidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    You'd be surprised how much a very confident attitude will add to your attractiveness. Women are more attune to body language than men are. They can sense a confident man.

    So, how's your self-confidence?
    Ummmm... It really sucks to be honest...

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    But actually it's MUCH better than it used to be.

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    Keep working on it. Because, if you're goal is to get the ladies, they'll sense that you're not that self-confident. And people that lack self-confidence generally don't make the big bucks or get things done.

    A tip: Fake it 'till you make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Keep working on it. Because, if you're goal is to get the ladies, they'll sense that you're not that self-confident. And people that lack self-confidence generally don't make the big bucks or get things done.

    A tip: Fake it 'till you make it.
    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. "fake it 'till you make it." I was actually trying to work on it quite a bit and doing really well with it then I had some problems I don't want to get into, etc. But actually it's been one of the things I've been working on and coming along much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
    Girls don't care about looks as much as us guys do. That ridiculous hookup probably had other things to offer.
    Eh. I didnt want to go on a tangent, but I know. Money, stability, etc.

    I just find that...well, immoral. A woman can call me shallow for wanting this and that when it comes to looks, but put the shoe on the other foot and a woman isnt just shallow, shes got elevation!

    Then next thing you know, time passes by and they end up cheating on that average rich chump with <GASP> a guy with good looks!

    Males are notorious for trying to simplify things..and for good reason. Its a tried and true concept. Find the best looking mate should be the first priority. After the looks lose their excitement (like 10 years after buying that hot exotic car), lets then see how their emotions and personality meshes with you. If it doesnt, go buy a newer car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    Keep working on it. Because, if you're goal is to get the ladies, they'll sense that you're not that self-confident. And people that lack self-confidence generally don't make the big bucks or get things done.

    A tip: Fake it 'till you make it.
    But to be honest I'm not sure it's so much of a confidence problem so much as a location problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vortrit View Post
    But to be honest I'm not sure it's so much of a confidence problem so much as a location problem.
    What do you mean?

    In this town, I notice the same shit I see back home, just more of it...cuz well theres more people!

    Of course then again, in this town, even the fatties have some misplaced arrogance. I met a girl that I spoke through friends on myspace. Eh, before I met her in person, I saw her pics and she had the hugest, nicest tits Ive seen here! I couldnt believe my friends knew her! So, I registered interest at met her at a local club.

    Needless to say, she was big. Her tits might have helped her out on that cuz they were fake triple D tits. They looked wonderful, but when I looked at the rest of her, regardless of her chest size, she was pushing 200lbs. I just got done fucking a woman pushing around that weight, I do NOT want to do that again. However..Ive never seen fake triple Ds...

    So I thought Id talk to her and see if she was a nice person. But she played some hard to get game...I was baffled. My curiosity didnt overshadow my pride, so I left the club wondering why the tubbie wasnt even friendly.

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    I've been meaning to ask you about her.

    You actually think those tits look good? She's like a sideshow attraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
    Eh. I didnt want to go on a tangent, but I know. Money, stability, etc.

    I just find that...well, immoral. A woman can call me shallow for wanting this and that when it comes to looks, but put the shoe on the other foot and a woman isnt just shallow, shes got elevation!

    Then next thing you know, time passes by and they end up cheating on that average rich chump with <GASP> a guy with good looks!

    Males are notorious for trying to simplify things..and for good reason. Its a tried and true concept. Find the best looking mate should be the first priority. After the looks lose their excitement (like 10 years after buying that hot exotic car), lets then see how their emotions and personality meshes with you. If it doesnt, go buy a newer car.

    I agree a 100%. I was not placing a moral standard on any of the factors of attraction. A woman that wants a guy because he is financially and emotionally stable is no better than a girl who wants a guy because he is hot. In both cases the woman wants something from the guy. Bottom line is that both sexes are attracted first by looks, then the rest of the package later.


    The proof is in the pudding. I have had very little luck with women until just recently. I completely changed my look, got rid of the beard, clean shaved my face everyday, got a new haircut, then had a professional braid my goatee. I forked over some cash and got some nice shirts and some nice jeans with a nice pair of shoes. For the past 2 weeks, hot ass nubiles have been attracted to me like moths to a street light. At bayfest this weekend, at least 20 hot girls approached me instead of me approaching them. I was there to practice material and hear some good bands in the process. But, instead of approaching I was constantly being approached. Saturday night I was there for less than 10 minutes when three girls asked me for a cigarette. The next question was did my bridge piercing hurt. After talking for a bit the girls all told me how hot my braids were. They then asked me if I wanted to hang out with them. I did for about 30 minutes, but then ran out of material and couldn't think of anything to say, so I cashed out while I was ahead and told them I had to find my friends and said bye. This pattern occurred over and over. The usual fat girl attraction phenomena never occurred. Perhaps they now thought I was out of their league, and the better looking girls now saw me as a suitable candidate.

    I put a lot of work into the new look. I spent all day at the mall looking for perfect fit cloths that highlighted my best attributes. I am not a smiler, but I have been forcing myself to smile until it feels natural. The material I have been studying says a great smile is a characteristic of an Alpha Male. Other characteristics are:

    • Height --> Check
    • Physical Fitness --> Check
    • Sense of fashion and style --> Check
    • Commanding Presence --> Needs work
    • Confidence --> I'm getting there
    • Humor --> Hopeless in this department


    Now the guy you speak of that looked ridiculous might not have had good looks, but maybe he had the other characteristics. If he could ever get in long enough to win the girl over with his wit, than he is set where as I can open the set easily, but can't go the distance.

    I have achieved the best success now that I am able to look at dating and social interaction from an academic standpoint. I know that was one hell of a tangent, but it does all tie together.

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