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    Belief in God a 'product of human weaknesses': Einstein letter






    Belief in God a 'product of human weaknesses': Einstein letter

    Renowned scientist Albert Einstein dismissed the Bible as a collection of “pretty childish” legends and belief in God as a “product of human weaknesses,” according to a letter to be auctioned this week.
    Einstein, who was Jewish, also rejects the notion that Jews were God’s chosen people.
    The letter was written in German in 1954 to philosopher Eric Gutkind.
    It is to be auctioned in London, England, on Thursday by Bloomsbury Auctions, and is expected to fetch between $12,000 and $16,000 US.
    Einstein writes "the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
    Born to a Jewish family in Germany in 1879, he also adds that "for me, the Jewish religion like all other religions is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions."
    He also wrote "the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong, and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people.
    “As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."
    Einstein 'rather quirky about religion': expert

    Many have speculated about the religious or spiritual beliefs of the Nobel Prize-winning physicist, whose theory of relativity revolutionized the study of physics.
    Some have pointed to Einstein’s quote that God "does not play dice" with the universe (his rejection of the randomness of the universe) as proof of his belief in a higher being.
    Others have said that the quote does not advocate a belief in God and have referred to other letters written by Einstein.
    "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly,” he wrote in another letter in 1954. "If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
    John Brooke, professor emeritus of science and religion at Oxford University, told the Associated Press that the letter lends weight to the notion that "Einstein was not a conventional theist" — although he was not an atheist, either.
    "Like many great scientists of the past, he is rather quirky about religion, and not always consistent from one period to another," Brooke said
    Brooke said Einstein believed "there is some kind of intelligence working its way through nature. But it is certainly not a conventional Christian or Judaic religious view."
    Bloomsbury spokesman Richard Caton said the auction house was "100 per cent certain" of the letter's authenticity.
    It is being offered at auction for the first time by a private vendor.
    With files from the Associated Press

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    Einstein is one of my all time favorite people. He's a hero to me. His story is actually rather interesting and his intelligence is highly admirable. Had i 16k to throw away i'd buy that letter.
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    Funny, I have come to very similar conclusions.

    I think God is just a concept people hold onto to satiate their fear of the unknown. Generally people strive to know everything. When they don't, they make something up. I don't see how a belief in God and religion is any different than a belief that lightning is a magical display of anger from the gods.
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    wow I never met an athiest in my life and on the internet theres so many of them.

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    Some parts of reality suck, so our minds handle it with BS, IMHO.

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    There are just way too many possibilities in the universe to conclude we know the means to creation or reality, way too many intangibles.

    The fact that people claim to know these things is laughable and extremely ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    wow I never met an athiest in my life and on the internet theres so many of them.
    Please allow me to introduce myself Danny
    Im a Tranny of wealth and taste
    Ive been around for a long, long year
    Stole many a mans soul and faith
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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    wow I never met an athiest in my life and on the internet theres so many of them.
    Had his moment of doubt and pain
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    wat are u trying to say? r u tying to remix a jay z song?

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    wat are u trying to say? r u tying to remix a jay z song?
    Nope, it's a Rolling Stone classic.

    It's called "Sympathy For The Devil"

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    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    Renowned scientist Albert Einstein dismissed the Bible as a collection of “pretty childish” legends and belief in God as a “product of human weaknesses,” according to a letter to be auctioned this week.





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    wtf is everyone on this site athiest

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    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by fufu View Post
    There are just way too many possibilities in the universe to conclude we know the means to creation or reality, way too many intangibles.

    The fact that people claim to know these things is laughable and extremely ridiculous.
    So...I take it you're not a fan of the Big Bang theory?


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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    wtf is everyone on this site athiest
    no, I am sure the "bible thumpers" will jump in here shortly!

    I am not atheist, I just have an issue with organized religions.





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    im a bible thumper i guess. i go to church someties. like 1-2x a month

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    im a bible thumper i guess. i go to church someties. like 1-2x a month
    that does not make you a bible thumper dude.





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    oo lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny81 View Post
    wow I never met an athiest in my life and on the internet theres so many of them.
    this may be the only thought out statement i have ever seen you type danny.

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    what is the never ending desire for science and religion to fight? why must they be looked at as mutually exclusive? And if any one needs to look at anecdotal quotes from a dead scientist to prove their belief, or lack thereof in God doesn't that just show an inner weakness to make up ones own mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    what is the never ending desire for science and religion to fight? why must they be looked at as mutually exclusive? And if any one needs to look at anecdotal quotes from a dead scientist to prove their belief, or lack thereof in God doesn't that just show an inner weakness to make up ones own mind?
    LMFAO, you refer to Albert Einstein as nothing more than a "dead scientist"?

    Oh my lord, no pun intended.





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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    this may be the only thought out statement i have ever seen you type danny.
    it's to be expected really, the average person is just a sheep. (no offense danny)





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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    LMFAO, you refer to Albert Einstein as nothing more than a "dead scientist"?

    Oh my lord, no pun intended.
    yea, a dead scientist. he was obviously a brilliant man. i'm sure regarded by the majority as the brightest of the century. this doesn't mean his opinion is the end all. my point is that the guy was an expert in physics. how does this make him an expert on God? why should I hold his understanding of God over my own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince View Post
    it's to be expected really, the average person is just a sheep. (no offense danny)
    this is the biggest fallacy ever. such a pessimistic, negative view of ones fellow man. do you then consider yourself to be so much greater than the lowly average man unable to think for himself Prince?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
    So...I take it you're not a fan of the Big Bang theory?
    I wasn't really talking about the Big Bang but I am open to the idea, regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    this is the biggest fallacy ever. such a pessimistic, negative view of ones fellow man. do you then consider yourself to be so much greater than the lowly average man unable to think for himself Prince?
    I know you are talking to Prince, but I agree with him

    Believing others are mindless sheep doesn't mean one thinks they are any better than someone else, I sure don't. The idea is only as pessimistic or negative as your own spin on it.

    Besides, how can that be called a fallacy? There is no way to prove it either way.
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