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    Together again: Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton to campaign as pair

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    CHICAGO (AP) -- Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama's campaign announced Friday that he will campaign with former rival Hillary Rodham Clinton next week, a step toward unifying a fractured Democratic Party after a bruising primary fight.
    Obama's campaign said in a brief e-mail that said the two senators and former opponents will campaign together for the first time on Friday, June 27, and more details would be forthcoming.
    A day earlier, Obama and Clinton also plan to meet in Washington with some of her top contributors in an effort to calm donors who remain frustrated with Obama's presidential campaign. The former first lady will introduce Obama to her financial backers.
    Clinton, a New York senator and former first lady, suspended her campaign for the Democratic nomination earlier this month after Obama, an Illinois senator, secured enough delegates to clinch the nomination.
    Obama's campaign disclosed the joint appearance - but offered few details - one day after announcing that he would reverse an earlier position and reject some $85 million in public financing for the general election. That announcement opened him up to a flood of criticism and dominated the news cycle.
    Thus, Obama's campaign sought to redirect attention by putting word out a full seven days in advance that Obama and Clinton would campaign together.
    Clinton ended her campaign on June 7, four days after Obama got enough delegates to clinch the nomination. "I endorse him and throw my full support behind him," she said at the time.
    The two met privately on June 5 after ditching reporters to make sure there would be no photos or coverage of the first post-race meeting. Obama was asked Wednesday whether they were talking.
    "I have not had conversations with Senator Clinton because she has been getting a well-deserved vacation," he said at the time. "We will be speaking I think in the next few days or certainly the next week and will be having an ongoing conversation."
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    Wow. Really?? I would never have guessed.

    On a scond note: Who the fuck gives a shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goob View Post
    On a scond note: Who the fuck gives a shit.
    I do, everyone should be scared shitless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splash Log View Post
    I do, everyone should be scared shitless.
    I know, what shall we ever do when they pull us out of the middle east and focus their efforts on the US and fixing the economy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRASHMAN View Post
    I know, what shall we ever do when they pull us out of the middle east and focus their efforts on the US and fixing the economy...


    there'll be jobs... everywhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRASHMAN View Post
    I know, what shall we ever do when they pull us out of the middle east and focus their efforts on the US and fixing the economy...
    Follow the lemming in front of you right over the edge.

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    the president doesn't do shit for the economy. and anyone who thinks so needs to take a basic 100 level econ class.

    like it or not we are in the middle east and have been for a century. pulling out now will hurt us in the long run. this isn't like pulling out of vietnam. if we pull out of the middle east too soon it will not be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    the president doesn't do shit for the economy. and anyone who thinks so needs to take a basic 100 level econ class.

    like it or not we are in the middle east and have been for a century. pulling out now will hurt us in the long run. this isn't like pulling out of vietnam. if we pull out of the middle east too soon it will not be a good thing.
    assuming oil still drives our economy.

    And the president does affect the economy...besides the obvious drivers like taxes, legislation, and subsidies, he appoints fed members who run our central bank. Maybe you slept through that part in econ 100...besides, what you learn in academia isn't the end all be all of social sciences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    the president doesn't do shit for the economy. and anyone who thinks so needs to take a basic 100 level econ class.

    like it or not we are in the middle east and have been for a century. pulling out now will hurt us in the long run. this isn't like pulling out of vietnam. if we pull out of the middle east too soon it will not be a good thing.
    Staying too long is a bigger mistake. I don't know if you've noticed, but we have a nine trillion dollar credit card bill. That in turn weakens the dollar and will affect the economy greatly. Yes it is theoretically Congress that controls money spent in the US, but they seem to be content with rubber stamping every retarded thing the President can think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzik17 View Post
    Staying too long is a bigger mistake.
    this point made me think there is no best case scenario at this point, but how can we get out of this situation at least OK. Then it made me think of the Heri Seldon novels by Asimov. Heri Seldon predicted that the empire would collapse and if humanity followed a certain path throughout time we could at least limit the collapse to only a 1000 years of barbarianism and anarchy

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    Quote Originally Posted by lnvanry View Post
    assuming oil still drives our economy.

    And the president does affect the economy...besides the obvious drivers like taxes, legislation, and subsidies, he appoints fed members who run our central bank. Maybe you slept through that part in econ 100...besides, what you learn in academia isn't the end all be all of social sciences.
    taxes, legislation, subsidies kind of enacted by congress. and i think my point was that economics like all sciences isn't exact. thats the point. despite what a president may want to do to fix the economy it is an unwieldy beast that one man or entire branch of government is not capable of steering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danzik17 View Post
    Staying too long is a bigger mistake. I don't know if you've noticed, but we have a nine trillion dollar credit card bill. That in turn weakens the dollar and will affect the economy greatly. Yes it is theoretically Congress that controls money spent in the US, but they seem to be content with rubber stamping every retarded thing the President can think of.
    or we can pull out early and have 2 Irans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crono1000 View Post
    this point made me think there is no best case scenario at this point, but how can we get out of this situation at least OK. Then it made me think of the Heri Seldon novels by Asimov. Heri Seldon predicted that the empire would collapse and if humanity followed a certain path throughout time we could at least limit the collapse to only a 1000 years of barbarianism and anarchy
    I love the foundation trilogy. I would hate to think of our republic falling like the roman empire

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    Quote Originally Posted by bio-chem View Post
    I love the foundation trilogy. I would hate to think of our republic falling like the roman empire
    It's interesting that you say that though because the Roman Empire collapsed due to financial issues very similar to ours by trying to maintain too large of an empire, not because of invasions or terrorism.

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    or we can pull out early and have 2 Irans.
    Iran has no capability to threaten us whatsoever. If we really want to "destroy" Iran, then we simply need to find alternative energies. Without revenue from oil, watch the entire Middle East degenerate into nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danzik17 View Post
    It's interesting that you say that though because the Roman Empire collapsed due to financial issues very similar to ours by trying to maintain too large of an empire, not because of invasions or terrorism.



    Iran has no capability to threaten us whatsoever. If we really want to "destroy" Iran, then we simply need to find alternative energies. Without revenue from oil, watch the entire Middle East degenerate into nothing.
    I think your oversimplifying the fall of the roman empire just a bit, and I'm not a big fan of irans future nuclear capabilities

    simply need to find alternative energies? any suggestions?

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