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    morning fasted cardio???

    morning fasted cardio???
    Hi I'm planning to do fasted morning cardio and my goal is to be lean and get more endurance and stamina.
    My question is how much BCAA should I take before and after cardio so I can lose fat and maintain my hard earned muscle lol and after I finish my fasted cardio how long should I wait till I have my breakfast after cardio
    BTW I will also do my normal weight training to at least gain more muscle and how what kind of cardio should I do I mean should I do HIIT cardio or steady cardio?????

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    Why do fasted cardio in the first place?

    Getting lean is all about diet management, not cardio, and certainly not cardio with no readily available food energy.

    Do a search in the training section, there have been many threads on this containing good information.





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    the only reason i chose fasted cardio is because you can lose fat quicker than the other methods. And i heard if I take BCAA supplement it will prevent me from muscle breakdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by celltech21 View Post
    the only reason i chose fasted cardio is because you can lose fat quicker
    The source of this conclusion?

    My logic is that if you eat something pre-workout, that will provide more energy to enable you to work harder in the gym, and end up in a greater caloric deficit.

    Rather expend 200 calories fasted, eat 200 calories and expend 500 due to that extra energy, ending up being in a deficit of an extra 100.

    Read this thread:

    http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/tr...-question.html

    There is one way to lose fat and that is to maintain a negative energy balance (ie - take in less calories than you are expending).

    There is one way to gain muscle ant that is to maintain a positive energy balance with an appropriate training stimulus (ie - take in more calories than you are expending).

    You can't do both at the same time, and achieving either goal is as simple as that. Its not EASY, just simple. There are no special techniques or supplements, just diet management and hard training.





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    a couple summers ago i did morning fasted cardio while on ephedrine and caffeine and then would eat breakfast and go weight train... i did get fairly lean but in retrospect it probably wasn't a very smart approach and i probably lost more muscle than i thought at the time...

    i've been cutting for the past few weeks with good results but still wasn't able to get down to as low of a body fat percentage as i hoped... i blame it on not being as strict as i could've been... going to bulk for a few months and cut again right before summer and try to be more strict... it isn't easy though... but one thing i did find is it is much easier to "diet" the fat off than try to exercise it off...

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    also, if you skip the cardio and just lift heavy while maintaining a caloric deficit you'll be less likely to lose much muscle mass as you're in a sense convincing your body that it has a reason to hold onto the muscle you have... i've tried a couple different approaches to fat loss and so far what worked best for me was:

    -lift heavy for short sessions no more than 4 times a week (i like 2 days on, 1 day off)
    -eat a high protein and higher fat (healthy fats) diet for comfort
    -limit carbs to only around your work outs (pre and post)
    -refeed every 4-6 days

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    cardio on a empty stomach

    this guy i know tolled me when i get up in the mornings to do cardio on a empty stomach and then in 3-4 hours hit the gym and after do a bit of cardio. is this a good way to lose lots of body fat and gain lean muscle. cos i did it for a week and lost 3kg.

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    again it's a good way to lose fat and LOSE LEAN MUSCLE... you're not gaining any muscle by doing this... if you don't care about losing muscle and just want to be skinny then go for it...

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    Yeah, what Skib said.

    You can lose a lot of WEIGHT where you really want to lose FAT.

    Seriously, you guys are making it way too complicated to avoid managing your diets.

    Count your calories, adjust them to suit your goals, and train hard. It's THAT SIMPLE.





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    Quote Originally Posted by yazy10 View Post
    this guy i know tolled me when i get up in the mornings to do cardio on a empty stomach and then in 3-4 hours hit the gym and after do a bit of cardio. is this a good way to lose lots of body fat and gain lean muscle. cos i did it for a week and lost 3kg.
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    I seem to disagree with many people on this forum (but in agreement with people on other forums).

    I have 1/2 serving whey in the morning followed by 45 mins cardio (jogging outdoors) and then another 1/2 serving whey + 1/2 banana straight after cardio. I eat breakfast 30 mins later.

    I currently do this 4 times a week (and push weights the other 3 days).

    Ive previously got myself very lean like this (see avatar) and I felt much fitter. I infact went up to cardio 7 days for the last 6 weeks of my diet and found this helped drop the last bits of fat. Im doing this again now (but starting with 4 days). I have never tried dieting without cardio.

    As you say you would like to improve stamina and endurance, you will have to do cardio to be able to do this.

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    I don't think anyone here advocates doing fasted cardio and neither are you - so i don't understand what you are diagreeing with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P-funk View Post
    I don't think anyone here advocates doing fasted cardio and neither are you - so i don't understand what you are diagreeing with.

    patrick
    Im not talking specifically about this post, but in general in previous posts many people have been against using morning cardio to diet.

    Also, the OP talks about taking BCAA before/after cardio so I think he isnt specifically reffering to completely fasted cardio either.

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    Fasting cardio is old magazine news. Dead it.

    If you want to get lean, count calories. Otherwise I agree with Gazhole.

    You can lose weight and think youre doing great then after two months you realize you've lost muscle mass too.
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    OK thanks for the replies everyone. Can you please give me steps on how do I lose fat because I'm curious about losing my fat and I want to become lean and this is what I dont get they said you need to burn more calories than you eat and you will lose fat?????
    So what should I do should I just burn more calories than I eat everyday and will I lose fat because I know I will lose my hard earned muscle too

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