President Obama declares a new war....

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 32
  1. #1
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    President Obama declares a new war....






    ......on lobbyists, Brogers and special interests in the way of his agenda


    Bring it on!
    President Obama says special interests will fight him on his new $3.6 trillion budget proposal - and he's ready to do battle.
    In his weekly radio and Web address Saturday, Obama said the banking, insurance and energy industries are sure to buck him on issues like cutting off big tax breaks.
    "I know they're gearing up for a fight as we speak. My message to them is this: So am I," he said.
    "The system we have now might work for the powerful and well-connected interests that have run Washington for far too long, but I don't. I work for the American people," the President said.
    "I didn't come here to do the same thing we've been doing or to take small steps forward, I came to provide the sweeping change that this country demanded when it went to the polls in November."
    Obama, who presented his budget proposal earlier this week, said he's ready for a major brawl if one is necessary to advance his agenda on education, clean energy and health care.
    Insurers, for example, may not like having to "bid competitively to continue offering Medicare coverage," Obama said, "but that's how we'll help preserve and protect Medicare and lower health care costs for American families."
    While Obama called his record budget "a threat to the status quo" of Washington, the GOP said not much has changed and government still wants to spend way too much.
    In the weekly Republican address, North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr warned against wild spending, saying "every time Congress and the President spends a dollar, it's actually a dollar plus interest" future generations will have to pay back.
    "It seems that every morning you pick up the newspaper, you're reading about another multibillion-dollar government spending plan being proposed or even worse, passed," Burr said.
    "The numbers are so large, and the deficits so staggering, it's difficult for the average person to imagine how much money we're talking about," he continued. "We become numb to what the dollar figures really mean, or the obligation that accompanies them."
    ckatz@nydailynews.com
    Last edited by min0 lee; 02-28-2009 at 04:48 PM.

  2. #2
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,501
    Rep Points
    3303946

    He's declared war on prosperity, not "special interest." Look at all the garbage in his bills. Millions to certain businesses/industries. He's all about sending your tax dollars to subsidize failing businesses.

    I hope he fails.

  3. #3
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,501
    Rep Points
    3303946

    "Lower health care costs" By spending an additional $600+ billion.

    Do people honestly believe this?

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post

    I hope he fails.
    I understand why you disagree but that's a bit extreme, he fails we all fail.

  5. #5
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    busyLivin's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    4,661
    Rep Points
    22045035

    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    I understand why you disagree but that's a bit extreme, he fails we all fail.
    Couldn't be more wrong... You should listen to Rush Limbaugh's speech at CPAC today... he covers that very topic perfectly.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    busyLivin's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    4,661
    Rep Points
    22045035



    Rush is the man

    Last edited by busyLivin; 02-28-2009 at 05:23 PM.

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin View Post
    Couldn't be more wrong... You should listen to Rush Limbaugh's speech at CPAC today... he covers that very topic perfectly.
    I pass, sorry.

  8. #8
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,501
    Rep Points
    3303946

    I hope he fails at implementing his radical agenda. So does every other conservative. Some might just not say it so bluntly.
    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    I understand why you disagree but that's a bit extreme, he fails we all fail.

  9. #9
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,501
    Rep Points
    3303946

    Quote Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
    I pass, sorry.
    Have you ever listened to Limbaugh? Probably not more than a few soundbites.

    I'd advise watching his speech at CPAC, if you are interested in actually knowing the true Limbaugh. You might become a regular listener.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    I'll give it a listen, I admit all I do hear are his selected sound bites from other people.

  11. #11
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,501
    Rep Points
    3303946



    Part 1. The rest are in the same guy's "More from user" tab.

    It's over an hour long, so set aside some time and watch the entire thing, not just the first part, if you're serious. It is worth it.

  12. #12
    Registered User


    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    1,501
    Rep Points
    3303946

    seems that guy only has 4 or 5 parts up. Might want to wait for a complete upload. Apologies.

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    busyLivin's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    4,661
    Rep Points
    22045035

    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post


    Part 1. The rest are in the same guy's "More from user" tab.

    It's over an hour long, so set aside some time and watch the entire thing, not just the first part, if you're serious. It is worth it.
    It really was a great speech. I really wish people would listen to it, but I don't have high hopes.

  14. #14
    The Evil Director is IN
    ELITE MEMBER
    tallcall's Avatar


    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Orlando, FL
    Posts
    2,875
    Rep Points
    3356080

    I used to watch his show all the time in the 90's (I so turned him on - pun intended). I like some of his positions, just like I like a lot of conservative positions, but I just can't stand the man himself (I just see him as a big hypocrite - like most people in politics and religion - I had to lump them together because I have Ted Haggard and company on my mind right now ).

    I swear if we bail out these auto companies again I will go crazy. Let bad business ideas FAIL. I would support using the money to BUY one of the manufacturers (say GMC just because I like them) and make all taxpayers shareholders (that'll boost sales pretty quickly and help make us a bit more money along the way - plus they'll be answerable to us and maybe push better fuel standards, or alternative fuels - I still want engine mods to increase gas mileage by an appreciable rate). Screw giving them money without limit, I want to own GMC dangit!!

    2009 First Place Florida State Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Champions - Elite Fighting Academy

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    Chubby's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Gender
    Female
    Location
    united states
    Posts
    1,276
    Rep Points
    33171586

    I don't think we can ever find a president who can meet the expectations of the entire citizens. Because there are different parties with different goals, there will always be many citizens who will not agree with decision of opposite party. Besides, we should not blur the line between patroitism and partism. Country should always come first.
    "If you think you are too small to make a difference
    you have never spent the night with a mosquito."
    ~ Dali lama


  16. #16
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    danzik17's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Connecticut
    Posts
    3,801
    Rep Points
    62793096

    He cleared up his "I hope Obama fails" position decently, I'll give him that.

    That said, don't kid yourself if a republican was in office right now. They would be spending massive amounts of money just the same to try and stave off a depression. It's a consequence of keynesian monetary policy - you either pump in money until inflation normalizes price levels, or you allow deflation to occur to "normalize" prices. The problem is that deflation begets more deflation, hence the problems that caused the depression.
    Ron Paul 2012

    No gym for home, work out floor with 30, but is it for 20 like 30 lb when you no lift it to be for men, for 30 lbs instead? or half is 10 for 20 pounds?

  17. #17
    primeau
    lnvanry's Avatar


    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Gender
    Male
    Location
    Tucson
    Posts
    4,276
    Rep Points
    54346477

    Quote Originally Posted by brogers View Post
    Have you ever listened to Limbaugh? Probably not more than a few soundbites.

    I'd advise watching his speech at CPAC, if you are interested in actually knowing the true Limbaugh. You might become a regular listener.
    I have...and he's way to emotionally charged for my ears. So is Hannity and O'reilly...I prefer the more wonkish and academic repubs like Hume, Kristol, and Krauthammer.

  18. #18
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    RNC chief Steele: Limbaugh is more a performer than GOP leader

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republican Party Chairman Michael Steele is taking issue with the notion that Rush Limbaugh is the de facto leader of the GOP, calling the conservative radio talk show host an entertainer whose comments can be ugly.

    Steele, chairman of the Republican National Committee, said in an interview with CNN that he, rather than Limbaugh, is "the de facto leader of the Republican Party."

    And Steele described Limbaugh as a performer.

    "Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush Limbaugh's whole thing is entertainment," Steele said. "Yes, it is incendiary. Yes, it is ugly."

    Limbaugh fired back on his radio show Monday that the GOP leader appears to be supporting President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    "Why do you claim to lead the Republican Party when you seem obsessed with seeing to it President Obama succeeds?" Limbaugh said to Steele.

    "I frankly am stunned that the chairman of the Republican National Committee endorses such an agenda. I have to conclude that he does because he attacks me for wanting it to fail," said Limbaugh.

  19. #19
    Esprit de Corps
    ELITE MEMBER
    Witmaster's Avatar


    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Oklahoma
    Posts
    5,072
    Rep Points
    18685917

    I suppose one could say it another way....

    Obama's "financial strategy" to restore the economy will drive the country further into recession and devalue the dollar to the point we're asking Mexico for loans. Our financial foothold in the world economy will plummet into ruin and we'll have less capital credibility that Haiti.

    I hope he fails.
    NEVER write a check with your mouth that you can't cash with your ASS!!

    I can run faster mad than you can scared

    "All right brain... I don't like you and you don't like me. So let's just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer" ~ Homer Simpson

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    busyLivin's Avatar


    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Chicago
    Posts
    4,661
    Rep Points
    22045035

    Yeah, that pissed me off. I bet his inbox was flooded.

  21. #21
    The Evil Director is IN
    ELITE MEMBER
    tallcall's Avatar


    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Orlando, FL
    Posts
    2,875
    Rep Points
    3356080

    What I still don't really get is why anyone would actually want to see their president and country fail. Isn't that kind of self-defeating?

    I don't particularly like everything Obama has done so far, but he is still my President, I supported Bush for the same basic reason even though I couldn't stand him as a person or most of his policies.

    Also, I do tend to prefer a more academic republican - think about it, Ron Paul was definately one of these guys and I love almost everything he stands for (heck, I even changed parties to Libertarian for this past election cycle just to vote for a person with ideals similiar to his).

    2009 First Place Florida State Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Champions - Elite Fighting Academy

  22. #22
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    Quote Originally Posted by busyLivin View Post
    Yeah, that pissed me off. I bet his inbox was flooded.

    You do know there is a reason for that, they say the Democrats want Rush to be the voice of the GOP.

    Reason being that you know how blunt and outspoken he is, and how the left edits his words.
    Well the casual listener will only hear and focus on the edited words, like "I hope Obama fails" and not the rest of his speech where he wants Obama to cease his attack on Capitalism.....or something like that.

  23. #23
    Moderator
    MODERATOR
    Dale Mabry's Avatar


    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Elsewhere
    Posts
    15,580
    Rep Points
    247492144

    Here is the way I see it. Both sides want to be right so much, they couldn't give 2 shits whether or not we fail as a country. Conservatives with their free market capitalism and Liberals with their Socialist ideas. Think about it, has the US been a pure capitalistic society over the course of the last 50 years? The truth is, their is benefit to either approach and each approach lends itself better in certain situations. Both sides take such a hardline approach to their agenda, and write off the other without even listening that it's no wonder we are where we are at.

    Look at the school loan program, it has been destroyed by the gov't selling the loans it initially wrote with low interest rates to companies who, in turn, jacked up the rates to ridiculous levels. They now say you can get school loans as low as 8.5%, they were 3.3% when I was in school. How is that helping anybody out?

    There should be no bailouts, without a severe overhaul in the way we do business, the US will fail no matter how much money we throw at it. Conservative, Democrat, it doesn't matter, they couldn't give 2 shits about the people at the bottom. Think about it, all of you people complaining that the income tax will be raised. The money that is going to be raised through that is not going to people who are too poor and lazy to work, it is going to people who are probably better off than you who failed and ran a company into the ground. GW did it, and Obama is doing the same.
    If sense were common, everyone would have it.

    4/2007-Current 75th Ranked most popular image 1 spot behind Prince's bulge...

    Check out my world famous Bob Loblaw's Law Blog at http://www.synergyhw.blogspot.com/...Just kidding, it's a health and wellness blog.

  24. #24
    YOU ME WE
    ELITE MEMBER
    IronAddict's Avatar


    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    In my skin
    Posts
    10,238
    Rep Points
    2147483647

    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Mabry View Post
    Here is the way I see it. Both sides want to be right so much, they couldn't give 2 shits whether or not we fail as a country. Conservatives with their free market capitalism and Liberals with their Socialist ideas. Think about it, has the US been a pure capitalistic society over the course of the last 50 years? The truth is, their is benefit to either approach and each approach lends itself better in certain situations. Both sides take such a hardline approach to their agenda, and write off the other without even listening that it's no wonder we are where we are at.

    Look at the school loan program, it has been destroyed by the gov't selling the loans it initially wrote with low interest rates to companies who, in turn, jacked up the rates to ridiculous levels. They now say you can get school loans as low as 8.5%, they were 3.3% when I was in school. How is that helping anybody out?

    There should be no bailouts, without a severe overhaul in the way we do business, the US will fail no matter how much money we throw at it. Conservative, Democrat, it doesn't matter, they couldn't give 2 shits about the people at the bottom. Think about it, all of you people complaining that the income tax will be raised. The money that is going to be raised through that is not going to people who are too poor and lazy to work, it is going to people who are probably better off than you who failed and ran a company into the ground. GW did it, and Obama is doing the same.
    Right on point Dale.



  25. #25
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    GOP chairman Michael Steele and pundit Rush Limbaugh in war of words





    BY MICHAEL SAUL
    DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

    Updated Tuesday, March 3rd 2009, 9:28 AM


    It's an elephant-on-elephant slapfest - and the White House is likely loving every minute of it.

    The Republican rumble pits conservative talk icon Rush Limbaugh against new GOP boss Michael Steele in an increasingly nasty war of words.

    "I would be embarrassed to say that I'm in charge of the Republican Party in the sad-sack state that it's in," railed Limbaugh yesterday, adding he "might get out the hari-kari knife" if he had Steele's job.

    Limbaugh lashed out at Steele on his radio show after the party boss slapped the talk legend's style during an interview Saturday.

    Steele had insisted that he - and not Limbaugh - was at the helm of the party.

    "Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer," Steele said on CNN. "Rush Limbaugh, his whole thing is entertainment. Yes, it's incendiary, yes, it's ugly."

    That was enough to set off Limbaugh.

    He accused Steele of being "gutless" and afraid to challenge President Obama.

    Last night, Steele tried to call a truce. "I have enormous respect for Rush Limbaugh," he told politico.com. "I was maybe a little bit inarticulate . . . there was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership."

  26. #26
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    Quote Originally Posted by IronAddict View Post
    Right on point Dale.
    Ditto.

  27. #27
    Windy City
    ELITE MEMBER
    Big Smoothy's Avatar


    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    South America
    Posts
    5,587
    Rep Points
    235125658

    Quote Originally Posted by Witmaster View Post
    I suppose one could say it another way....

    Obama's "financial strategy" to restore the economy will drive the country further into recession and devalue the dollar to the point we're asking Mexico for loans. Our financial foothold in the world economy will plummet into ruin and we'll have less capital credibility that Haiti.

    I hope he fails.
    I think it's better to say:

    "I hope he changes his strategy."

    I saw the Limbaugh piece in the thread. Goofy. Loud. Sarcastic.

    Talking about Gen. Petraeus.

    Folks, the CPAC gathering looked bad. Limbaugh and Coulter.


    This honestly shows how bad the GOP is right now.


    And no, I am NOT a Democrat.
    It's an accurate statement that our current spending will not be increasing the debt We've stopped spending money that we don't have.

    -- Jack Lew, then director of the Office of Management and Budget, in Feb. 16, 2011 testimony before the Senate Budget Committee.

  28. #28
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Smoothy View Post


    This honestly shows how bad the GOP is right now.


    And no, I am NOT a Democrat.
    The GOP knows that, they seem to try to counter act when Clinton was no longer running with Palin, then they bring in Steele as in to counteract against Obama but that failed also, then they tried with Jindal after Obamas speech...he bombed.
    The Dems are happy with Rush leading the way.



  29. #29
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759


  30. #30
    Senior Member
    ELITE MEMBER
    min0 lee's Avatar


    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    The Bronx, NYC
    Posts
    44,753
    Rep Points
    812984759






    This kid outshines them all, damn....he makes Palin look like an airhead.


Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 20
    Last Post: 02-23-2012, 02:15 PM
  2. President Obama had been shot and killed.........
    By min0 lee in forum Anything Goes
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 07-05-2011, 12:01 AM
  3. Replies: 5
    Last Post: 03-06-2011, 05:41 PM
  4. President Obama gives himself a B-plus grade
    By min0 lee in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 12-15-2009, 09:43 PM
  5. President declares disaster in Northwest (AP)
    By Prince in forum Open Chat
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-08-2007, 08:10 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
DISABLED END -->