Questions about Cardio.

freshtodeath · 06-15-2009, 11:04 AM

Hey,
Are there any benefits from doing cardio when you wake up before you eat?
I usually walk on the treadmill at an incline of 12 and a speed of 3.2, will I burn the most fat and retain muscle like this?

T_man · 06-15-2009, 12:36 PM

You will probably burn the most fat in this state.... but also alot of muscle. You havent had any protein for atleast 8 hours & jumping into cardio, ofcourse you would expect muscle mass loss to be on the high side

freshtodeath · 06-15-2009, 01:36 PM

should I take a protein shake before I run?

T_man · 06-15-2009, 01:48 PM

It probably would help in terms of muscle mass loss but the protein would also be broken down into carbohydrate and used as fuel instead of fat i think

sakbar · 06-15-2009, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_man

....protein would also be broken down into carbohydrate...

Why not just have a quick shake along with some carbs?

DIVINITUS · 06-15-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakbar

Why not just have a quick shake along with some carbs?

Well...at that point aren't you just burning the carbs AND protein in the shake instead of fat?

quadluver · 06-15-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freshtodeath

should I take a protein shake before I run?

Protein helps build muscle, it doesn't help preserve it.

**Built** · 06-15-2009, 08:37 PM

Protein doesn't spare muscle? Are you sure about that quadlover?

If you're running for fat loss, you're really missing the boat: diet off the weight, train heavy to preserve the muscle.

Do a little cardio for your health, but pretend it burns nothing.

Since that's not why you're doing it, might as well feed it.

jhawkin1 · 06-15-2009, 09:11 PM

I do a scoop of whey with skim milk along with an apple (pre workout for weights and for cardio).

freshtodeath · 06-15-2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

If you're running for fat loss, you're really missing the boat: diet off the weight, train heavy to preserve the muscle.

Do a little cardio for your health, but pretend it burns nothing.

Since that's not why you're doing it, might as well feed it.

Pretty much the basic theory that cardio gets one shredded isn't even true... can anyone point me in the right direction to getting shredded?

m11 · 06-15-2009, 11:31 PM

Read the 'Wondering where to start' link in Built's signature. That's a good starting point.

freshtodeath · 06-15-2009, 11:38 PM

thanks.... I'll read it over

Yanick · 06-15-2009, 11:45 PM

The above mentioned link plus the stickies in here

and Getting Started With Your Diet

Should give you lots to read and get a foundation going in terms of what you should be aiming for. Some information may overlap but use it as a reinforcer.

Kevsworld · 06-17-2009, 11:05 AM

Fasted cardio is a controversial issue.

Here's the theory behind it:
Since your blood sugar is low in the mornings, fasted cardio would cause you to tap into fat resources more quickly. But this can put you in danger of burning muscle. Like many things whether or not it is advisable depends on your situation.

I never recommend fasted cardio for ectomorphs. I think it can be effective for endomorphs (or in some cases, mesomorphs). Here's the main thing to keep in mind with fasted cardio: don't get too intense. If you break into the anaerobic threshold, you greatly increase your chances of burning muscle.

06-15-2009, 11:04 AM	#1
freshtodeath Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 15	Questions about Cardio. Hey, Are there any benefits from doing cardio when you wake up before you eat? I usually walk on the treadmill at an incline of 12 and a speed of 3.2, will I burn the most fat and retain muscle like this? Last edited by freshtodeath : 06-15-2009 at 11:22 AM.

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T_man Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,247 Photos: 1	You will probably burn the most fat in this state.... but also alot of muscle. You havent had any protein for atleast 8 hours & jumping into cardio, ofcourse you would expect muscle mass loss to be on the high side Cheat on your girlfriend, not on your meal.

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Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,113	Protein doesn't spare muscle? Are you sure about that quadlover? If you're running for fat loss, you're really missing the boat: diet off the weight, train heavy to preserve the muscle. Do a little cardio for your health, but pretend it burns nothing. Since that's not why you're doing it, might as well feed it. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

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jhawkin1 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 496	I do a scoop of whey with skim milk along with an apple (pre workout for weights and for cardio). Goal: 8% Body Fat, maintain majority of muscle mass New Years Resolution: Build up my lower body

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freshtodeath Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 15	should I take a protein shake before I run?

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m11 www.liftstrong.com Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: FL Posts: 857	Read the 'Wondering where to start' link in Built's signature. That's a good starting point. Getting Started by Built LG Sciences Board Representative These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, do not constitute medical advice, and are not official or authorized comments by LG Sciences, LLC.

06-15-2009, 11:38 PM	#12
freshtodeath Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 15	thanks.... I'll read it over

06-15-2009, 11:45 PM	#13
Yanick Amor Fati Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 4,231	The above mentioned link plus the stickies in here and Getting Started With Your Diet Should give you lots to read and get a foundation going in terms of what you should be aiming for. Some information may overlap but use it as a reinforcer. "The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge." -Barry Marshall, Nobel Laureate

06-17-2009, 11:05 AM	#14
Kevsworld Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 93	Fasted cardio is a controversial issue. Here's the theory behind it: Since your blood sugar is low in the mornings, fasted cardio would cause you to tap into fat resources more quickly. But this can put you in danger of burning muscle. Like many things whether or not it is advisable depends on your situation. I never recommend fasted cardio for ectomorphs. I think it can be effective for endomorphs (or in some cases, mesomorphs). Here's the main thing to keep in mind with fasted cardio: don't get too intense. If you break into the anaerobic threshold, you greatly increase your chances of burning muscle. Kevin StrongandFit.net

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