i can't get a workout on my abs...

**readyformore** · 07-31-2009, 04:22 AM

yeah... like the title says... i cant freakin get a workout on my abs... i tried weighted declined sit up's, did 10 of them then stopped cuz i know it'll mess my back up then i went on the crunch machine put it up to 150 pounds.... did 5 sets of 10... not tired at all... did some leg raises.... 5 sets of 10.. not tired at all.. not soar at all... are abs like specially hard to train? do you have to go all out with a butt load of reps or something? i'm mad because i've even put the crunch machine up to 190 pounds which is the max and my back got tired before my stomach...

any advice?
any killer ab workout's?

**Perdido** · 07-31-2009, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by readyformore

any advice?
any killer ab workout's?

Just work on those deads and squats after you get those knees fixed.

deads, squats, chins, pullovers...they are all killer ab workouts.

**readyformore** · 07-31-2009, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by rahaas

Just work on those deads and squats after you get those knees fixed.

deads, squats, chins, pullovers...they are all killer ab workouts.

yeah but for the meantime i need something.. and i'm not getting soar as much anymore.. i've been working out for about 2 weeks only also... like i went 2 days ago and worked out my biceps and back and i had to go back today to because they were all healed up.... i'm on l glutamine, beta alanine, creatine monohydrate and protein.. lol today was the first time i took the glutamine and beta alanine and i don't know which one did it but i started getting itchy all over! it went away once i got to the gym though..

**Perdido** · 07-31-2009, 06:04 AM

Can't do chins or pullovers?

Why you taking that stuff? Did you read it in a magazine?
Take the creatine and protein the rest are a waste of money IMO.

**P-funk** · 07-31-2009, 08:08 AM

*sigh*

patrick

**CarolinaMom** · 07-31-2009, 08:09 AM

I also cant get an ab workout due to injury. I have had tears and hernias in my abdominals. I have a 23" waist and I need to pack on muscle everywhere but cant find something to do to build without risking further injury. Pullups and pushups are a definite no no for me.

**P-funk** · 07-31-2009, 08:13 AM

*double sigh*

patrick

**readyformore** · 07-31-2009, 02:43 PM

i've tried a bunch of things.. and the other 2 that i'm taking they were like super cheap so i thought might as well... and i'm taking them because i def don't eat enough and need the extra stuff.. like yesterday all's i ate was a chicken sandwich a egg, sausage and cheese hot pocket and 4 small beef taco's... def not getting my nutrients out of only that =\

**Gazhole** · 07-31-2009, 03:02 PM

What are you training your abs to achieve?

**readyformore** · 07-31-2009, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Gazhole

What are you training your abs to achieve?

a 6 pack of course.. it's already starting to show a lil bit... don't have much fat over them...

**Gazhole** · 07-31-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by readyformore

a 6 pack of course.. it's already starting to show a lil bit... don't have much fat over them...

Getting a 6 pack is pretty much 100% about diet. Sure you can build the muscles up, but until the fat is gone you still cant see all that work.

Training your core/abs is important, but important from a stability perspective.

**readyformore** · 07-31-2009, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Gazhole

Getting a 6 pack is pretty much 100% about diet. Sure you can build the muscles up, but until the fat is gone you still cant see all that work.

Training your core/abs is important, but important from a stability perspective.

i've never trained my abs before so yeah =\ i already know that which is why i said i don't have much fat... i weigh 175 at 6'3... my pants size is 32 =\ i'm pretty damn skinny =P

**juggernaut** · 07-31-2009, 09:31 PM

fuck it all drop the supps, eat a dozen dunkin donuts corn muffins and call it a day.

**readyformore** · 07-31-2009, 11:50 PM

hey.. believe it or not i notice a HUGE difference when i'm taking the supps compared to not taking them... i feel more pumped... everything! don't get soar as long or anything like that.. hit chest and tri's really hard 2 day's ago and nothing right now... hit biceps yesterday and nothing right now same with back =\

**Perdido** · 08-01-2009, 04:46 AM

Think about what you are saying. You ask for advice, you get it, then either you make up excuses why you can't do what you are advised or do the opposite and say it's working for you.

I'm with Jugg, fuck it all and do what you want. Your going to do it anyway then wonder why you'll end up looking like a freak with arms bigger than your legs.

**juggernaut** · 08-01-2009, 04:56 AM

Originally Posted by readyformore

hey.. believe it or not i notice a HUGE difference when i'm taking the supps compared to not taking them... i feel more pumped... everything! don't get soar as long or anything like that.. hit chest and tri's really hard 2 day's ago and nothing right now... hit biceps yesterday and nothing right now same with back =\

placebo: A placebo is a sham medical intervention. In one common placebo procedure, a patient is given an inert sugar pill, told that it may improve his/her condition, but not told that it is in fact inert.

**readyformore** · 08-01-2009, 05:15 AM

Originally Posted by juggernaut

placebo: A placebo is a sham medical intervention. In one common placebo procedure, a patient is given an inert sugar pill, told that it may improve his/her condition, but not told that it is in fact inert.

dude.. i don't eat enough food to get all the stuff i need.. i eat at most 3 times a day and when i do there small meals... and how damn skinny do i have to be? i'm about to say screw the bs n try to bulk... key word there is TRY haha i don't think i'll be able to eat enough for that but then again i notice myself gaining weight when i eat about 2k calories a day which is weird

i want to try and just get shaped up pretty much... like i think i lost weight to fast or something (90 pounds in about 6-7 months then another 10 recently =\) so what would you guys suggest i do, bulk or try and cut and get more shape? i'm guess bulk... huh...? well i'll try those workout's sunday since i work to much tommorow and the gym closes before i get out of work (i get out at midnight

) so yeah though i guess i'll try and bulk then..

**tucker01** · 08-01-2009, 05:22 AM

You just recently started weight training.
You have a shit diet.
But you expect abs?

Lift hard(heavy compound movements), and eat properly then come back in a year.

**juggernaut** · 08-01-2009, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by readyformore

dude.. i don't eat enough food to get all the stuff i need.. i eat at most 3 times a day and when i do there small meals... and how damn skinny do i have to be? i'm about to say screw the bs n try to bulk... key word there is TRY haha i don't think i'll be able to eat enough for that but then again i notice myself gaining weight when i eat about 2k calories a day which is weird

i want to try and just get shaped up pretty much... like i think i lost weight to fast or something (90 pounds in about 6-7 months then another 10 recently =\) so what would you guys suggest i do, bulk or try and cut and get more shape? i'm guess bulk... huh...? well i'll try those workout's sunday since i work to much tommorow and the gym closes before i get out of work (i get out at midnight

) so yeah though i guess i'll try and bulk then..

Not only did you provide the answers to all of your questions, but showed how naive you really are to training and dieting. Pick up a copy of Patrick's book, read some of Gaz's periodization work, read Built's sig on how to get started-because you're all over the place, drop the fucking supplements since you're an obvious victim of bullshit hype with a hole to burn in your pocket, stop reading the ragazines, and just throw everything you know out the window because it's a strong diet of bullshit.

**Gazhole** · 08-01-2009, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by IainDaniel

You just recently started weight training.
You have a shit diet.
But you expect abs?

Lift hard(heavy compound movements), and eat properly then come back in a year.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Not only did you provide the answers to all of your questions, but showed how naive you really are to training and dieting. Pick up a copy of Patrick's book, read some of Gaz's periodization work, read Built's sig on how to get started-because you're all over the place, drop the fucking supplements since you're an obvious victim of bullshit hype with a hole to burn in your pocket, stop reading the ragazines, and just throw everything you know out the window because it's a strong diet of bullshit.

These.

Adding a +1 to Patrick's book. Bought it a few days ago and it's fantastic.

**juggernaut** · 08-01-2009, 05:56 AM

told ya!

**DiGiTaL** · 08-01-2009, 07:22 PM

LOL @ Patrick.

It pays to do some research on this stuff before asking.

Ironmagazine.com has a lot of great articles on abs and such

**Gazhole** · 08-02-2009, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by juggernaut

told ya!

You should do a quote for the back cover

**irishteen** · 08-02-2009, 12:05 PM

Ha this fella doesnt seen to know much about how to achieve six pack abs.....You say you have only been going to the gym for a little while but still you expect to be able to achieve perfect abs whilst taking all your supplements which do f*ck all :L:L

**juggernaut** · 08-02-2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Gazhole

You should do a quote for the back cover

I'll be glad to do it when your book comes out. Apparently, in other threads I'm well versed in literary prose...being from NJ and all.

**Triple Threat** · 08-03-2009, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by P-funk

*sigh*

patrick

I can feel your pain.

**Gazhole** · 08-03-2009, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by irishteen

Ha this fella doesnt seen to know much about how to achieve six pack abs.....You say you have only been going to the gym for a little while but still you expect to be able to achieve perfect abs whilst taking all your supplements which do f*ck all :L:L

As i recall you have asked equally basic questions in the last few weeks, even one about getting six pack abs.

Creatine and protein are also pretty solid as far as supplements go - why the hate?

**readyformore** · 08-03-2009, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Gazhole

As i recall you have asked equally basic questions in the last few weeks, even one about getting six pack abs.

Creatine and protein are also pretty solid as far as supplements go - why the hate?

THANK YOU... i've done plenty of research on creatine and protein and have got a bunch of good reviews on it... the beta alamine and glutamine is just a trial thing i spent like 10-15 bucks on both of them to see if there worth the money.. i'm hardly even taking them since there pills though i'm just taking protein and creatine... anyone disagree with taking them?

**Perdido** · 08-03-2009, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by P-funk

*sigh*

patrick

A very appropriate response

**Gazhole** · 08-03-2009, 05:16 PM

I know people who have gotten good results from beta alanine but when i tried it myself i didn't give it a chance because it made me feel sick. The tingling didn't bother me, and it goes away pretty fast, but i felt fatigued and nauseous after taking it every time. Sold it to a friend.

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