Thread: This isnt overkill right?

the order of it all is kind of weird.

I basically do HIIT on all 3 of my low carb days because (wrong or right) thats what my mind is programmed to think because I read it somewhere when planning my carb cycle plan. Feel free to dispute it if you have any suggestions. Low carb days for me are monday, tuesday and wednesday.

Then I weight lift monday, wednesday, thursday just because its most convienent for me. Monday is the most convienent day for me because im off work and school, so its easy to fit in both HIIT and weight training (1 in morning, 1 in evening). The saturday full body is just extra if able to throw it in. I have strongly considered just moving the wednesday weight lifting to saturday so that it works out where I do HIIT (mon-wed), then weight lift (mon,thr, and sat)but I seem to be stuck on the idea of weight training 4 days a week being a better idea to preserve as much muscle mass as I can since im not going as intense as I should be on my weight training.

Does that make any sense?

Originally Posted by legendkiller713

Monday morning - HIIT (20 min)
Monday Night - Chest & Tri's
Tuesday night - HIIT (20 min)
Wednesday night - HIIT (20 min), Back & Bi's
Thursday night - Legs & Shoulders
Friday - off
Saturday - Full body workout
sunday - off

Coupled with a carb cycling diet (4 low, 3 high) based off this site Carbohydrate Cycling for Cuts | Skip's Fitness Emporium - (Version 5.0) but ofcourse with my numbers and macro's adjusted accordingly.


edit** im gonna add some more hoping i get a little feedback. Im a poor college student, so I dont have acess to a real good gym. However there is a small one at the complex im staying at. Here is what my workouts look like (reminder: there is limited equipment inc. no bench press, no barbells and many other missing thing i wish I could take advantage of)

So here is what they do have, and what I am doing...

Monday night (chest&tri) -
-Cable crossover
-dumbbell flye
-dumbbell incline bench
-Cable bench press (machine)
-push ups
-cable tri pushdown
-seated dumbbell tri extention

Wednesday night (Back and Bi's)
-Cable seated row
-Lat pulldown
-pull ups (hard for me, and assisted is unavail.)
-dumbbell bi curl
-cable bi curl

Thursday night (shoulder & legs)
-Dumbbell shoulder press
-dumbbell lat raises
-machine shoulder press
-shurgs
-dumbbell "beginner squat"
-calf raises
-dumbbell lunges
-dumbbell calf jumps

*saturday if im not busy ill go to the gym and do a full body using 2 exersizes for each body part of the ones listed above.

Is this a cut routine? I don't think it's that good.
First there's too much volume in everything. Too many exercises each day and not enough compounds either.
Secondly, monday, on a low carb day is it really okay for your cns and immune system n recovery to do both HIIT and workout?
Third, the legs routine is not that good, heck let me call it trash lol. Doing shoulders on a separate day to back and chest is overkill on a cut imo, and also the full body seems a little too much to add to an already taxing workout.

Remember on a cut you dont have sufficient food to recover from hard intense and long workouts so you have to keep them short and fast. Lift heavy and little. HIIT 3x a week is fine though.

Cut the full body workout ontop of your routine & get a routine with much lower volume and more heavy compounds like bench, deads, squats, military press, rows, pullups etc

smells like overkill to me.

patrick

ask skip if he's all natural or using anything close to gear.

And to add, I agree with the others.

Training on a cut = low volume, moderately high intensity. Give your body a reason to keep the muscle by lifting heavy, but don't overstress yourself and exhaust your reduced recovery ability/resources.

Do 3 exercises a session, fullbody, 3x5 or something, 2-3x a week. Get HIIT in there once or twice.

Keep it simple, get in, get out, recover. Don't waste time on meaningless crap.

Originally Posted by Merkaba

ask skip if he's all natural or using anything close to gear.

And to add, I agree with the others.

I figured that was the case. I do like the carb cycling routine he uses though. Or at least the 3 days on 3 days off aspect of it.

Now as for more compound exersizes I will try, but remember im very limited at least until I can start saving up after the new year. Right now im limited to pretty much a bench, dumbells, tredmill, leg press / calf raise machine, bench press/shoulder press cable machine, lat pull down / low row machine and cable crossover machine with chin up handles.

So hows this...going into a full body workout strictly mode.

Monday:HIIT
Tuesday: Full body day 1
Wednesday: HIIT
Thursday: Full body day 2
Friday: Off
Saturday: Full body day 3 & HIIT (will be day 3 of carb up)
Sunday: Off

fullbody Day 1:

3 sets of chin up (til failure)
Dips
Dumbell incline bench press
Arnold Press
dumbbell lunges
Leg press
seated Row
Tri Extentions
dumbbell curls

full body day 2:

3 sets of push ups (til failure)
Dumbbell Flye
Standing shoulder press
Calf Jump
dumbbell Squat
Lat Pull-down
Machine Bi & Tri curl/push down

Fullbody day 3:

push ups (til failure)
Cable Crossover
Machine Bench Press
Arnold Press
Dumbbell squat
Leg Press
dumbbell curl


I have a feeling I might still be trying to do too much so any feedback negitive positive or constructive is welcome.

Originally Posted by legendkiller713

I figured that was the case. I do like the carb cycling routine he uses though. Or at least the 3 days on 3 days off aspect of it.

Now as for more compound exersizes I will try, but remember im very limited at least until I can start saving up after the new year. Right now im limited to pretty much a bench, dumbells, tredmill, leg press / calf raise machine, bench press/shoulder press cable machine, lat pull down / low row machine and cable crossover machine with chin up handles.

So hows this...going into a full body workout strictly mode.

Monday:HIIT
Tuesday: Full body day 1
Wednesday: HIIT
Thursday: Full body day 2
Friday: Off
Saturday: Full body day 3 & HIIT (will be day 3 of carb up)
Sunday: Off

fullbody Day 1:

3 sets of chin up (til failure)
Dips
Dumbell incline bench press
Arnold Press
dumbbell lunges
Leg press
seated Row
Tri Extentions
dumbbell curls

full body day 2:

3 sets of push ups (til failure)
Dumbbell Flye
Standing shoulder press
Calf Jump
dumbbell Squat
Lat Pull-down
Machine Bi & Tri curl/push down

Fullbody day 3:

push ups (til failure)
Cable Crossover
Machine Bench Press
Arnold Press
Dumbbell squat
Leg Press
dumbbell curl


I have a feeling I might still be trying to do too much so any feedback negitive positive or constructive is welcome.

for a start cut out curls and extensions or any isolation. Your arms will be hit pretty hard doing those compounds and adding iso will probably melt your arms.