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    Need a new workout

    Ok guys, I'm bored with my workout and need a new workout that will increase my strength, especially in my pressing movements (chest and shoulders) but I'm not doing a big bulking phase. In other words, I don't want to pack on 15-20lbs and then cut..I'm around 200lbs right now and have been working out for a while. I switch up my routines every so often, but I'm getting bored with the current one, and since I'm back on the forums, I figured I'd ask for advice.

    My bench has started to make some gains lately, nothing great. And the fact that I'm pressing around 240lbs-250lbs 1rm is pretty good considering how long I didn't lift for. I've never hit the 315lbs club, and would LOVE to. I just don't want to bulk and get the soft dough boy look and then have to cut. I don't mind that I"m not shredded either, not really a goal of mine. I'm more about getting stronger, building muscle and just feeling good about how I look. Maybe one day I'll do a big cut down.

    Does this make sense? I'm just kinda, blah right now. I work out at my University's staff gym, and I lift alone, getting spots here and there. But, I've always done better with someone to compete with or yell at me. I love that level of motivation. Since I don't have that, I have to focus and get myself pumped up, which has always been hard. Feeling stuck/plateauing doesn't help hahahaha

    I'm currently doing this workout:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/workout2.php?name=Mass&description=this+is+a+4+day +mass+workout.++Great+for+ectomorph.++The+goal+of+ this+workout+is+to+lift+heavy+for+4-6+reps+and+to+targe+2+muslces+a+day.++First+workou t+that+actually+help+me+put+mass+on&type=Split&dif ferent=4&goal=Build+Muscle&days=4&schedule1=Y&sche dule2on=&schedule2off=&person=&email=snoopy1505@ao l.com&E1[]=flat+bench&R1[]=4-6&S1[]=3&E1[]=incline+bench&R1[]=4-6&S1[]=3&E1[]=incline+flies&R1[]=4-6&S1[]=3&E1[]=close+grip+bench&R1[]=4-6&S1[]=3&E1[]=skull+crusher&R1[]=4-6&S1[]=3&E1[]=single+hand+extensions&R1[]=4-6&S1[]=3&sy1[]=Monday&E2[]=s+bar+curl&R2[]=4-6&S2[]=3&E2[]=incline+dbell&R2[]=4-6&S2[]=3&E2[]=d+bell+curl&R2[]=4-6&S2[]=3&E2[]=hi+rows&R2[]=4-6&S2[]=3&E2[]=cable+rows&R2[]=4-6&S2[]=3&E2[]=sldl&R2[]=4-6&S2[]=3&E2[]=lat+pull+down&R2[]=4-6&S2[]=3&sy2[]=Tuesday&E3[]=military+press&R3[]=4-6&S3[]=3&E3[]=arnold+press&R3[]=4-6&S3[]=3&E3[]=up+right+rows&R3[]=4-6&S3[]=3&E3[]=front+raise&R3[]=4-6&S3[]=3&sy3[]=Thursday&E4[]=squat&R4[]=4-6&S4[]=3&E4[]=leg+press&R4[]=4-6&S4[]=3&E4[]=leg+extensions&R4[]=4-6&S4[]=3&E4[]=deadlifts&R4[]=4-6&S4[]=3&E4[]=calf+raise&R4[]=max&S4[]=3&sy4[]=Friday&exercount=22&s2r=4

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    Okay, so, I figured I'd give some better/more detailed info. Apologies, but I was at work (am) and was rushed, but I have more time to write this out now.

    Stats:
    6'1
    ~200lbs
    BF% - If I had to guess, 17-20% range. I'm not really sure, never had it checked

    Current Routine.

    Monday:
    Flat Bench - 3x4-6 Reps
    Incline Bench - 3x4-6 Reps
    Incline Flies - 3x4-6 Reps
    Close Grip Bench - 3x4-6 Reps
    Skull Crusher - 3x4-6 Reps
    Single Hand Extensions - 3x4-6 Reps

    Tues:
    S Bar Curl - 3x4-6 Reps
    Incline Dbell - 3x4-6 Reps
    D Bell Curl - 3x4-6 Reps
    Hi Rows - 3x4-6 Reps
    Cable Rows - 3x4-6 Reps
    Sldl - 3x4-6 Reps
    Lat Pull Down - 3x4-6 Reps

    Thurs:

    Military Press - 3x4-6 Reps
    Arnold Press - 3x4-6 Reps
    Up Right Rows - 3x4-6 Reps
    Front Raise - 3x4-6 Reps
    BB wrist curls 3x10-12 reps

    Friday:

    Squats - 4x 6-10
    Leg Ext - 3x 6-10
    Leg Curls - 3x 6-10
    calf raises (on leg press) 3x 15-20
    Diet:

    Meal 1:
    1/2 cup old-fasioned oats, 1 scoop optimum whey, 2 tbsps natural crunch PB, Multi-vitamin, 8oz water

    Meal 2: 2 scoops, 1 banana, 2 tbsp peanut butter (shake)

    Meal 3: 7-8oz diced chicken, 1/2 cup rice

    TRAIN

    Meal 4: post workout shake - 2 scoops and water

    Meal 5: 7-8oz~ Turkey/chicken of some sort, sweet potato with smart balance and splenda and broccoli.

    Meal 6: 1-2 eggs, 1/2 cup or so of egg beaters, some ground turkey

    Lately I've been missing meal 6 too often so I'm going to change that.

    I'm basically interested in developing bigger muscles and getting stronger. They should go hand-in-hand but lately I've been peaking, especially on my bench. That needs to change. I'm not worried about cutting right now, as it's winter. I am in FL, so I can worry about cutting in a couple months. Hell, I'm white as hell, it's not like I go out in the sun with a shirt off a lot anyways.

    People have definitely noticed my bigger muscles already and those who I haven't seen in a couple years (when I first got back into lifting) definitely notice a change, so taht's good. But I'm not where I want to be by any means. My bench needs to go up and I'd like work on my shoulders as well (esp. traps). My legs are coming back, after a hip injury and years of not squatting due to a bit of a lower back prob. Now i"m going to the chiro and have had little-to-no back pain and have started to see gains in my squats. I tried to be as detailed as I could for you guys. Go easy on an old-timer (not really, ill be 29 next week) who has just come back to the Forums!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
    Okay, so, I figured I'd give some better/more detailed info. Apologies, but I was at work (am) and was rushed, but I have more time to write this out now.

    Stats:
    6'1
    ~200lbs
    BF% - If I had to guess, 17-20% range. I'm not really sure, never had it checked

    Current Routine.

    Monday:
    Flat Bench - 3x4-6 Reps
    Incline Bench - 3x4-6 Reps
    Incline Flies - 3x4-6 Reps
    Close Grip Bench - 3x4-6 Reps
    Skull Crusher - 3x4-6 Reps
    Single Hand Extensions - 3x4-6 Reps ???
    Change the rep range, change from BB to DB.
    Tues:
    S Bar Curl - 3x4-6 Reps
    Incline Dbell - 3x4-6 Reps
    D Bell Curl - 3x4-6 Reps
    Hi Rows - 3x4-6 Reps
    Cable Rows - 3x4-6 Reps
    Sldl - 3x4-6 Reps
    Lat Pull Down - 3x4-6 Reps
    you are training lats before biceps right???
    Thurs:

    Military Press - 3x4-6 Reps
    Arnold Press - 3x4-6 Reps
    Up Right Rows - 3x4-6 Reps
    Front Raise - 3x4-6 Reps
    BB wrist curls 3x10-12 reps

    Friday:

    Squats - 4x 6-10
    Leg Ext - 3x 6-10
    Leg Curls - 3x 6-10
    calf raises (on leg press) 3x 15-20
    Diet:
    well here are a few training options after seeing what you are doing now.


    monday
    db incline 4x10-12
    BB flat bench 4x10-12
    Dips 4x8-10
    tri rope ext 2x12-15

    tuesday

    db rows 4x8
    Latt pulldowns front 4x10-12
    GGPD 3x10-12
    hammer curls 3x10
    cable curls 4x10



    thursday
    squats 5x10-12
    front squats of hack squats 5x10-12
    SLDL 5x10-12
    H curls 3x10-12
    standing clave raise 5x10-15

    friday

    seated db press 5x10-12
    cable laterals 5x10-12
    shrugs 4x10-12
    rear delts 3x12...or do this on back day


    or do a fullbody workout 2x a week ( Just for a short time) or a upper lower day, 2x a week...hitting each twice a week. bottom line is change the rep range, intensity and exarcises. also if needed take some time off, rest will make you grow if you have been training hard for many months weithout a break.

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    Yes, I should point out, I do lats BEFORE bis. That workout was backward for some reason, apologies. Just wanted to clarify.

    Quick question: for trying to gain size and strength, aren't those rep ranges a bit high? I've always been told lower rep ranges with heavier weight.

    I have been training a lot, consistently for a few months. I will be forced to sit out a week after Xmas as my gym is closed that entire week. It's a staff gym where I work (university) and the school will be closed that whole week. I plan on doing abs a couple of times that week and some basic pushups and chins somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freeman View Post
    Yes, I should point out, I do lats BEFORE bis. That workout was backward for some reason, apologies. Just wanted to clarify.

    Quick question: for trying to gain size and strength, aren't those rep ranges a bit high? I've always been told lower rep ranges with heavier weight.

    I have been training a lot, consistently for a few months. I will be forced to sit out a week after Xmas as my gym is closed that entire week. It's a staff gym where I work (university) and the school will be closed that whole week. I plan on doing abs a couple of times that week and some basic pushups and chins somehow.
    Low reps are great for power lifts but to grow you need both high and low reps. Variety is best, do a 2-3 month training cycle with lower reps then give the joints a break and also shock the muscles with high reps.

    The best thing to remember is no one workout is best, a variety of training programs is always beter IMO.

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    I agree with Bateman wholeheartedly on this. This rep range is specific to hypertrophy. The lower range is predominantly for strength. I've added a couple different options that I like in red.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    well here are a few training options after seeing what you are doing now.


    monday
    db incline 4x10-12
    BB flat bench 4x10-12
    Cable crossovers 4x10-12 (failure on last set)
    Dips 4x8-10
    French press 4x10-12
    tri rope ext 2x12-15

    tuesday
    db rows 4x8
    Latt pulldowns front 4x10-12
    GGPD 3x10-12
    preacher curls 4x10-12
    hammer curls 3x10
    cable curls 4x10



    thursday
    squats 5x10-12
    front squats of hack squats 5x10-12
    SLDL 5x10-12
    H curls 3x10-12
    standing clave raise 5x10-15

    friday
    seated db press 5x10-12
    cable laterals 5x10-12
    rear laterals 4x10-12
    shrugs 4x10-12
    rear delts 3x12...or do this on back day


    or do a fullbody workout 2x a week ( Just for a short time) or a upper lower day, 2x a week...hitting each twice a week. bottom line is change the rep range, intensity and exarcises. also if needed take some time off, rest will make you grow if you have been training hard for many months weithout a break.
    Also, I'm not sure on your specific macros, but it appears you could add some protein and up your carbs early in the day. Eggs instead of shake with your oatmeal.

    If you can give us a macro count. I'd like to see where your diet is.

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