Thread: Tomorrow will start bulking,, got questin

If you're bulking doing that much cardio is going to be totally counter productive.

You gain muscle mass by having more protein and calories than you need, if you're using those calories on cardio - you won't have much left to build muscle!

By all means do some cardio - its essential for heart health and lung function - but on a bulk you WILL gain some fat as well as muscle, there is no way of getting around that.

Thanks for the quick reply,,, So how much cardio should I do? Whould I stick on the cardio I Plan to to home on day six and seven and avoid those during weights days? I really want to do some cardio for my general health.. Please advise,,

any reply please,,,

i havent done cardio in a year. i dont even walk. my endurance is down but i still prefer my calories going toward anabolism and repair. i've been told that walking 20 minutes 2x a week during a bulk is good.
you need to calculate how many calories you take in per day, then subtract out all the calories you burn with exercise and for maintenance, then ensure you're in a caloric surplus. otherwise you wont gain weight.

Originally Posted by peach_lover

Hi ever body and nice to be here again,,,

I have just finish my fat burning session and I really did well but also lost some muscle,,no problem...

tomorrow I will start bulking,, My schedule routine will be:

Day one,, Chest and front shoulder and abs

Day Two,, Biceps and triceps and 10 or 15 mins cardio

Day Three,, Rest

Day four,, Back and rear shoulder and abs

Day Five,, legs and 10 or 15 mins cardio

Day six,, 20 or 30 minutes cardio on elliptical at home

Day seven,, 20 or 30 minutes Cardio on elliptical at home


is this ok??? am I do too much cardio??? I put this cardio to keep the fat away as much as possible,,

Now, let's cover the program.

First of all, as I say to so many people, DROP THE ISOLATION!!! Stick to essential compound lifts; more bang for your buck. Your bi's and tri's and delts will get plenty of a workout through push and pull exercises.

Another thing, if you insist on isolation, why are you splitting delts like that? By shoulder I assume you mean delts. Well, (a) why wouldn't you want to cover the lateral delts, as well, and (b) why do you feel the need to isolate these parts any further than just "delts"?

Nevertheless, you don't need to isolate these muscles like that. Why not work a 4 day push/pull split? Here's my program structure, for an example...

Tues: Lower - Pull/Calves
Thurs: Upper - Horizontal Push/Vertical Pull
Sat: Lower - Push/Calves
Sun: Upper Horizontal Pull/Calves

This covers absolutely everything in the body the way it was meant to be trained. Also, aside from the one glorious exception of calves, there are ZERO isolation movements. I'm gaining like never before.

This is just an idea. You can do fewer days, or full body..whatever. But, it's better to stick with compounds and cover your pushes and pulls equally. Isolation can be used way down the road once you've been at it long enough to asses your performance and physique and what needs extra attention. Until then, do your deads, squats, rows, etc...let your body grow.

This is what I did for my first bulk. Ate 5000 calories a day. My workout was something like this:

Day 1: Bench Press - 2 warm up sets, 3 working
Day 2: Dead Lift - " "
Day 3: Squat - " "
Day 4: Video games
Day 5: Movies
Day 6: Video games
Day 7: Rest

Heavy as hell. Gained 30lbs in 3 months. Wasn't the cleanest bulks but it worked. All my lifts went up 20 - 30%. It was fun. I also got really good at warcraft

Originally Posted by Doublebase

This is what I did for my first bulk. Ate 5000 calories a day. My workout was something like this:

Day 1: Bench Press - 2 warm up sets, 3 working
Day 2: Dead Lift - " "
Day 3: Squat - " "
Day 4: Video games
Day 5: Movies
Day 6: Video games
Day 7: Rest

Heavy as hell. Gained 30lbs in 3 months. Wasn't the cleanest bulks but it worked. All my lifts went up 20 - 30%. It was fun. I also got really good at warcraft

-lol- Wow 5000 calories, must have been doing alot of eating during warcraft.
No pull-ups?

Originally Posted by Doublebase

This is what I did for my first bulk. Ate 5000 calories a day. My workout was something like this:

Day 1: Bench Press - 2 warm up sets, 3 working
Day 2: Dead Lift - " "
Day 3: Squat - " "
Day 4: Video games
Day 5: Movies
Day 6: Video games
Day 7: Rest

Heavy as hell. Gained 30lbs in 3 months. Wasn't the cleanest bulks but it worked. All my lifts went up 20 - 30%. It was fun. I also got really good at warcraft

why wouldn't you split that up?..instead of hitting the gym for three days and then resting for four?..lift mon, wed, fri or something

Peachey,
While you have been given some excellent advice already, I cant help thinking that the actual question here is ......
What are you wanting to achieve ??????

Bulking up requires a certain type of training !
Staying slim and Cardio is another type of training !
Maintenance is another type of training !

I have been training for over 20 years and take it from me, all that happens if you try and do all of these is that you will achieve none of them.

Decide what you want and then design your training programme and diet accordingly.

Good Luck,

Loafer

Originally Posted by NateJohnson3

why wouldn't you split that up?..instead of hitting the gym for three days and then resting for four?..lift mon, wed, fri or something

I did. Just wrote it that way. I always took a day or two in between.

Originally Posted by PushAndPull

-lol- Wow 5000 calories, must have been doing alot of eating during warcraft.
No pull-ups?

Yeah I did some weighted pull-ups too. What I was trying to get at with that post was that you should do very little activity when bulking. Stick to simple, heavy compound movements and eat. When you are done eating. Eat again. The best advice given to me here when bulking was "See food, eat food". I ate everything. I puked a few times from the calorie packed shakes I would make. I was very lean though. About 155lbs at 6' tall. I have a very fast metabolism and can handle the extra fat.

Originally Posted by Phineas

Here's my program structure, for an example...

Tues: Lower - Pull/Calves
Thurs: Upper - Horizontal Push/Vertical Pull
Sat: Lower - Push/Calves
Sun: Upper Horizontal Pull/Calves

Hey Phineas, would you care to share some more details of your program. I'd be interested in seeing the particular lifts you're doing along with set a reps.
Thanks bro

Originally Posted by Doublebase

This is what I did for my first bulk. Ate 5000 calories a day. My workout was something like this:

Day 1: Bench Press - 2 warm up sets, 3 working
Day 2: Dead Lift - " "
Day 3: Squat - " "
Day 4: Video games
Day 5: Movies
Day 6: Video games
Day 7: Rest

Heavy as hell. Gained 30lbs in 3 months. Wasn't the cleanest bulks but it worked. All my lifts went up 20 - 30%. It was fun. I also got really good at warcraft

I'm reminded of the "Make Love Not Warcraft" South Park.