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    ok so obviously using straps makes it a lot easier to move heavier weight. The thing is i can't do close to the same weight say when im deadlifting or hang cleaning when im not using straps. Would it be a good idea to train without them for awhile to try and develop better grip strength or is it perfectly ok to use my straps so im working with heavier weight?

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    I never use straps. That said, if you have no goals of competitive weightlifting or powerlifting, I don't see why it matters.

    If you want to move away from them, I'd do farmer's walks, rack pulls, and weighted pullups. Your grip will improve pretty quickly.

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    I used straps for years and I finally faced up to the fact that my grip was not what it should be. I tossed the straps and haven't used them in 2 or 3 years. When doing heavy shrugs I am hanging on for dear life but I make it back to the rack when I have done all of my reps. I do deadlifts, chins, pull ups, rows and shrugs without the straps and my grip has improved.

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    I think it can be argued that straps actually weaken your grip by providing a crutch. Lift whatever weight your grip allows and as your grip strenthens you can lift more weight. Don't do it the other way around.
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    Ask yourself this question: do you WANT a stronger grip? Don't do something because you feel you "should".

    Personally i hate using straps because grip and hand strength is a big interest and hobby of mine. Because of this, i don't NEED to use them either.

    The upside of this is that my forearms are quite well developed, which is nice. I also don't have the problems you would have if one day you forgot your straps, or if they broke during a workout.

    With regular training your grip will improve pretty quickely also, so it won't be an issue for too long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    my forearms are quite well developed
    That's an understatement! Your forearms are insane Gaz.
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    for hang cleans!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    That's an understatement! Your forearms are insane Gaz.
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    ok well since im not too worried about grip strength as i am too just building mass no problem with just sticking with them then

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaMayor View Post
    Ohhhhhhh...Gaz has an admirer!







    But seriously... http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/ga...02y14q/cat/500
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    Sometimes you have to make a decision to let some of the other body parts catch up. My forearms are definitley bigger and more defined since I stopped using the straps. My moment of truth was when someone that did not lift weights had more grip strength than me when we used grip strength tester.

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    You have to take into account the whole program, IMHO.

    For example.. you have a pull day. Using straps at the later side of the workout after your grip has been pre-exhausted might be the intelligent thing to do for your overall development.

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    Gaz How heavy do you go with deads and or rack pulls? I go up to like 700 on racks every blue moon...usually around 600. I gotta have straps. I do a few sets at 405 without straps but can't imagine much more. I think I'm gonna start really trying to improve my grip and forearms. They've always been weaker/smaller than I'd like. I really put some size on my traps this year though doing the heavy racks.
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    I am considering getting straps. I am deadlifting 330x6, 350x4, then on my last set I can only get 375 up 3 times before my grip just completely gives out. I would like to continue doing deadlifts without straps and develop a really strong grip but I feel like I am doing the rest of my body a disservice by having the lift limited by my grip =/.

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    There's nothing wrong with using straps.
    If you're concerned with your grip not passing muster, then do some grip training.

    I tend to follow the same principle as hoglander. Once my grip is shot, I get the straps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkaba View Post
    Gaz How heavy do you go with deads and or rack pulls? I go up to like 700 on racks every blue moon...usually around 600. I gotta have straps. I do a few sets at 405 without straps but can't imagine much more. I think I'm gonna start really trying to improve my grip and forearms. They've always been weaker/smaller than I'd like. I really put some size on my traps this year though doing the heavy racks.
    My Deadlift (as of today) is only 330lbs x 3 reps, but i can hold on to 400+ without too much trouble. I've never needed to use straps for anything, even long sets or heavy rack pulls. I did a set of 15 shrugs with 145lbs dumbells and that was alright.

    I havent done rack pulls for a long time so i couldnt tell you what i do for those! lol. I've been tearing decks of cards and stuff lately though, just starting to get into that.

    I can reccomend some grip exercises if you'd like? You really only need to train it 2-4 sets three times a week and you'll see pretty rapid improvements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    Ahhhh excessive masturbation...
    Well, I guess I found my day 4 routine! 5 sets of ought to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMJ View Post
    Well, I guess I found my day 4 routine! 5 sets of ought to do it.
    5 sets? You stallion, you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
    5 sets? You stallion, you!
    hell yea gaz inbox me the exercises! Or post a link or whatever you got. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC24/7 View Post
    Thankyou. Valuable input!
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