I think two.. maybe three sets of each would be good too.
I'm looking at doing almost this same routine using UD2 starting next week.

its 3 full body workouts per week routine is:
squat
deadlift
bench press
db fly
chin ups
bent over row
shrugs
shoulder press
curls
french press
calf raises
crunches
only 1 set is performed of each taken to one rep before failure, although it looks like a lot its actually only 12 working sets per workout, for the first 3 weeks it will be one set to failure in the 12-15 rep range, the next 3 weeks one set to failure in the 8-12 rep range and in the last 3 weeks one set to failure in the 5-8 rep range. Then 1-2 weeks of rest. What do you think?
its loosely based on the principles of HST and HIT as supposedly the offer very good size and strength gains respectively

2 sets would take an unbelievable amount of time to do
Last edited by beginnerbb; 03-04-2010 at 03:36 PM.

could you do it like this?
squat
1 min rest
deadlift
1 min rest
bench press
1 min rest
db fly
1 min rest
chin ups
1 min rest
bent over row
1 min rest
shrugs
1 min rest
shoulder press
1 min rest
curls
1 min rest
french press
1 min rest
calf raises
1 min rest
crunches
1 min rest
squat
1 min rest
deadlift
1 min rest
bench press
1 min rest
db fly
1 min rest
chin ups
1 min rest
bent over row
1 min rest
shrugs
1 min rest
shoulder press
1 min rest
curls
1 min rest
french press
1 min rest
calf raises
1 min rest
crunches
1 min rest
thats 2 sets of each?
but HIT is only ever 1 set per exercise

think it will be effective?

bulking meant for size with some strength


Bulking huh? I don't see why it still wouldn't be effective.. Just eat your ass off. Personally, I prefer a split for bulking rather than a full body because I wouldn't typically think 1 or even 2 sets would be enough but I don't know why it would matter as long as your effort is in there.
Maybe someone else will jump in and correct me if I'm wrong.

well there is a lot of research that shows that multiple sets isnt very much more effective than 1 set hence why HIT and HST work amongst other routines

thats an odd place to post that? lol


no worriesdo you want to make your own thread? just go to the part with all the threads and click the new thread button?
FMJ - here i knew i'd find it somewhere
Single Set Versus Multiple Sets In Weight Training - Muscleblitz.com
quite a few studies in there

Thanks for the assistance![]()
so you would do that in one day? how many times a week? would u take a day or days off in between?

yeah non consecutive days - so something like workout on mon wed and fri, days off on tues thurs sat and sun or something similar


That looks more like circuit training or conditioning to me.
I think you're thinking too much about this and over-complicating things. If i did a three day fullbody split for bulking it would look something like this:
DAY 1:
Squats
Bench Press
Pullups
DAY 2:
Deadlifts
Military Press
Dumbell Rows
Alternate them back and forth so you do one of the workouts twice a week. Monday + Wednesday are 5x5, Friday is 3x5 at a reduced weight (so you don't do 5x5 for the same workout twice). A single isolation exercise for a lagging or small bodypart can be performed each session as required (shrugs/curls/tricep extensions/calves etc etc etc etc).
This will take around 45 minutes to an hour. Maybe less if you really push yourself. Work hard on those exercises, push up your poundages, eat a lot, and rest a lot. Training doesn't have to be complicated to work.
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thats true it doesnt and it isnt really that complicated, but, HIT does work for people and so does HST and they only really use one work set, read the link i posted a little bit up


I know, i've done HIT and Heavy Duty programs based off Mike Mentzer's books many times, and its a good training technique. I don't see much resemblance between your workout and HIT though, besides the one set per exercise thing. It's far more HST than HIT i think.
I would certainly take more rest between sets if you are going to training to actual muscular failure, though, and perhaps work more of a split into it. You can still train fullbody but i would split it up better (hams / chest, and quads / back, or something) and focus on those muscle groups a bit more.
I've never understood HST type programs for some reason, i just didn't "get it" when i tried it out.
But those are my suggestions anyway, the only way you'll know for sure is by trying the program out and seeing what happens! Like i said in that other thread, the biggest element is hard work - so long as you work hard you'll see results off this, and any other program you do.
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it is based on HST but instead of doing the incremental thing like it suggests its more of an HIT style where i have one set to hit the muscle hard and then next session i'll try and beat it in terms of reps or weight. This way i hit the muscle 3 times a week and from doing quite a lot of reading a lot of newer research points towards the once a week thing as not that effective
just attempted the first workout of it and im not going to lie i feel like ive been raped, whether that will coordinate into muscle growth time will tell
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