Thread: Should I get it?

in a previous thread you said your goal was to be over 200lbs so i would say no, and stick to lifting.

Bro, looking back over all your posts since you joined here, you have consistently shown yourself to be unable to stick with any goals, training or diet. This lack of motivation or whatever problem it is that is preventing you from focusing is why you have not even come close to accomplishing your goals after 2 years on this site.

I am not saying this to be rude, only trying to force you into a reality check.

If you think you can focus on P90X. Actually complete the training, AND follow the diet, then sure. Go for it, that is a decent price, and you obviously lack the dedication and drive to create and follow a program of your own, so this may be just the ticket for you.

I hope this wasnt too harsh, I didnt mean it to be. Good luck.

No!

If you have two twenty dollar bills then go for it. Wtf not?

If you have no motivation then perhaps this gizmo will be something that will spur you on. Best wishes!

Originally Posted by DiGiTaL

No!

I'm the proverbial "fool and his money". Why did you give it a strong no?

We discussed the P90X while back. Big debate, good responses from both ends but in the end, its upto you. Read this thread below, see what the experienced have to say

P90x

^Gotcha. Thank you!

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Bro, looking back over all your posts since you joined here, you have consistently shown yourself to be unable to stick with any goals, training or diet. This lack of motivation or whatever problem it is that is preventing you from focusing is why you have not even come close to accomplishing your goals after 2 years on this site.

I am not saying this to be rude, only trying to force you into a reality check.

If you think you can focus on P90X. Actually complete the training, AND follow the diet, then sure. Go for it, that is a decent price, and you obviously lack the dedication and drive to create and follow a program of your own, so this may be just the ticket for you.

I hope this wasnt too harsh, I didnt mean it to be. Good luck.

If you looked back on my posts you would read where I lost 100 pounds... I've since then gained roughly 15 pounds of upper body muscle.... My goal is to honestly just get big... It's really hard for me to stick to a diet due to medical reasons... I have very little foods to choose from so ehh and last time I lost 10 pounds from trying to diet bulk lol If losing 30 pounds in 1 month isn't having motivation, I don't know what is

just stick to training, that would be to intense for you if you cant find the motivation then hire a trainer for a few weeks and go from there. but only u can make your goals come true. people gave there opinions now its time for you to make the final say and quit talking about it , do it now. you need to get into your training reading about it aint going to get u no where either you want it or you dont but make the decision.

The problem is bro, that you are full of shit. That wouldn't be so bad, except you keep getting good members to give you good advice, yet you continue to waste everyones time.

You constantly lie about your size/strength/BF%, but expect people to give you good advice.

Here are some examples simply because I have nothing better to do.

Here you are talking about how your 1RM used to be 300lbs, without cheating on curls.

why am i so sore?

Here you are talking about how you weigh 200lbs and bench 300

How to build a big chest


Here is you asking for (and receiving) advice on building a workout:

Workout for a stronger core?

FINALLY gym membership! now i need a routine....

My Routines!

are these good numbers for a beginner?

how does this routine look?

And there are many many more.

Here are some over the space of 1.5 years with pics.

beginning of 09'
how long to meet my goal? (pics)

late 09'
what do u guys think? to skinny?

later 09' when you were "11% bf"

What starts to show first when getting abs?

End of 09' beginning of 2010 when you were sub 10% BF (lawl)

Do my arms look normal....?




So just a couple points:

1. You have been the exact same size for almost 2 years.

2. All of your BF% calculations are wrong

3. You have never in your life benched 300lbs. Ever. Not even close.

4. You state that you can curl 160lbs for "6-7 sets of 10". Those arms have never even considered 160lbs.

5. You have asked and asked and asked for variation after variation of routine, and gotten some really good advice. Despite this you have not gained one ounce of muscle. This is not due to lack of good knowledge being passed on to you. Its because you arent following through and remaining dedicated.

6. Gratz on the fat loss. I will still call you a fucking liar that you ever weighed 275lbs benching over 300. You have maybe 110lbs of LBM (thats a nice estimate) and I would eat my fucking shorts if you were ever close to 300lbs.


I wasn't trying to be a dick, I am just tired of seeing people pour time and effort into you, when you dont even give the common courtesy to follow up on the advice you are given.

So I say again. Yes. Pickup P90X. Follow it. Maybe it will keep you motivated.

my arms are almost 22inch and they are synthol 2 inches anyway and cant curl but 185 for maybe 5-6 reps at a good day. no way 160 for even one. or its hard to believe. its true what jm said dont waste everybodys time if your not going to stick with it. no more from me if thats anything you even read. good luck whatever you do in bbing bro.

Originally Posted by jmorrison

So just a couple points:

1. You have been the exact same size for almost 2 years.

2. All of your BF% calculations are wrong

3. You have never in your life benched 300lbs. Ever. Not even close.

4. You state that you can curl 160lbs for "6-7 sets of 10". Those arms have never even considered 160lbs.

5. You have asked and asked and asked for variation after variation of routine, and gotten some really good advice. Despite this you have not gained one ounce of muscle. This is not due to lack of good knowledge being passed on to you. Its because you arent following through and remaining dedicated.

6. Gratz on the fat loss. I will still call you a fucking liar that you ever weighed 275lbs benching over 300. You have maybe 110lbs of LBM (thats a nice estimate) and I would eat my fucking shorts if you were ever close to 300lbs.

1. I wouldn't consider myself the "Same size" All of my numbers have went up and my muscles are bigger.

2. You know, when you do this one thing really fast.... I forget what it's called... Oh yeah... LOSE WEIGHT! You tend to not have the skin that is more "elastic" or for you're intelligence level I should say "loose skin"

3. I benched 300 pounds when I was in a bench pressing competition with a marine that came to recruit at my school. I don't see how hard it is to add 4 45's 2 35's and 2 2 1/2's... Don't forget the bar that weighs 45 pounds. Don't feel too bad if you have to ask someone else to add that up for you since you seem so retarded.

4.

its only like 65 pounds for both my arms and thats about half my 1 rep max.. doing like 6-7 sets of 10

That's about half my 1 rep max, 65 pounds.

here let me show you something
65
x2
---
130

Now, I say I could do a 1 rep max of ABOUT double 65 pounds which could be from 120-140. I never said 160, I have no clue where your pulling these numbers out of besides your ass.

5. I haven't gained 1 ounce of muscle yet I cut down to 170 and gained back up to 185 with the same size waist. HMM.... Arm's have grown an in... Chest has grown a in... I would consider that some muscle gain, specially considering that I went up on ALL on weight on ALL of my workouts by at least 10-15 pounds.

6. 110 pounds of LBM.... @ 6'2.... um.... To say that you are a fucking idiot would be a understatement...

Originally Posted by readyformore

1. I wouldn't consider myself the "Same size" All of my numbers have went up and my muscles are bigger.

2. You know, when you do this one thing really fast.... I forget what it's called... Oh yeah... LOSE WEIGHT! You tend to not have the skin that is more "elastic" or for you're intelligence level I should say "loose skin"

3. I benched 300 pounds when I was in a bench pressing competition with a marine that came to recruit at my school. I don't see how hard it is to add 4 45's 2 35's and 2 2 1/2's... Don't forget the bar that weighs 45 pounds. Don't feel too bad if you have to ask someone else to add that up for you since you seem so retarded.

4.
That's about half my 1 rep max, 65 pounds.

here let me show you something
65
x2
---
130

Now, I say I could do a 1 rep max of ABOUT double 65 pounds which could be from 120-140. I never said 160, I have no clue where your pulling these numbers out of besides your ass.

5. I haven't gained 1 ounce of muscle yet I cut down to 170 and gained back up to 185 with the same size waist. HMM.... Arm's have grown an in... Chest has grown a in... I would consider that some muscle gain, specially considering that I went up on ALL on weight on ALL of my workouts by at least 10-15 pounds.

6. 110 pounds of LBM.... @ 6'2.... um.... To say that you are a fucking idiot would be a understatement...

bro what is it you actually want? to bb or high intensity type training? if those r your stats then start weight lifting right away. 7.5% bf is good. what can people or i do for you to help you in your goals? let me know if anything.

wait everyone he's a HARDGAINER

Originally Posted by unclem

bro what is it you actually want? to bb or high intensity type training? if those r your stats then start weight lifting right away. 7.5% bf is good. what can people or i do for you to help you in your goals? let me know if anything.

What I want is to just gain muscle mass... The thing is, I can't really eat too much and I'm limited to what I can eat... If I eat too much, I'll get sick and possibly throw up. If I eat something I'm not supposed to, I'll get sick and possibly throw up... I eat on right now about 1.5k - 2k calories with getting in no more than usually 100g of protein. Last time I lost 15 pounds from trying to "bulk" on a diet in which I ate 2k calories with about 160g of protein and I don't remember how much carbs I was taking in... I have gym access pretty much everyday.

Yes you are perfect candidate for the P90X <turns around trying to hide my busting up laughing>

First off, as I stated in another post last night, the combination of low cals, being stuck on a rig, and mid-cycle had me a little pissy last night. I apologize for even making this post. It was rude. However, I only take back MAKING the post, not any of the shit I said. You are a liar.

Originally Posted by readyformore

1. I wouldn't consider myself the "Same size" All of my numbers have went up and my muscles are bigger. ...

If by 'bigger' you mean, 'exactly the same' then yes, you got bigger. Pics dont lie man. You may have leaned up a little, and probably added some functional strength if you are working out, but size certainly wasnt gained.

Originally Posted by readyformore

2. You know, when you do this one thing really fast.... I forget what it's called... Oh yeah... LOSE WEIGHT! You tend to not have the skin that is more "elastic" or for you're intelligence level I should say "loose skin" ...

I know all about losing weight. I went from a fat ass 265lbs last february at 30%+ BF% to a fairly lean and mean 205 last month. I know about skin elasticity, and loose skin. As a parent I also know a thing or two about watching a kid lie. You were NEVER 270lbs. Not in your life. A 270lb man at upwards of 50% BF, (which is fucking insane) would have 20-30lbs more LBM than you. Even if you did every single thing wrong when losing the weight, you would have retained some of that.

Originally Posted by readyformore

[3. I benched 300 pounds when I was in a bench pressing competition with a marine that came to recruit at my school. I don't see how hard it is to add 4 45's 2 35's and 2 2 1/2's... Don't forget the bar that weighs 45 pounds. Don't feel too bad if you have to ask someone else to add that up for you since you seem so retarded....

The problem isnt math. The problem is lies. You have never in your life bellied up to 300lbs, unless it was a chubby at prom. If you were benching 300lbs at 270 you had far more LMB than 50% as stated above, and there is NO WAY you lost all of that.

Originally Posted by readyformore

1.4.
That's about half my 1 rep max, 65 pounds.

here let me show you something
65
x2
---
130

Now, I say I could do a 1 rep max of ABOUT double 65 pounds which could be from 120-140. I never said 160, I have no clue where your pulling these numbers out of besides your ass....

Ah sorry, looks like I was off on this one. I still wont take it back. If these arms:
Do my arms look normal....?
Can curl 130lbs once with good form, or 65lbs for 6-7 sets of ten, I am the tooth fairy. I have 18in arms and thats not far off from what I do 5x10 with I actually get around to training Bis. Also by the way, according to your signature, you should have been around 7.5-8%bf in that pic. Horseshit.

Originally Posted by readyformore

5. I haven't gained 1 ounce of muscle yet I cut down to 170 and gained back up to 185 with the same size waist. HMM.... Arm's have grown an in... Chest has grown a in... I would consider that some muscle gain, specially considering that I went up on ALL on weight on ALL of my workouts by at least 10-15 pounds....

I was just being a dick when I said you havent gained an ounce. You may have put on a little weight. Maybe. But hell, I fluctuate 10lbs water weight on a weekly basis, so 15lbs in a couple years...I dunno

Originally Posted by readyformore

6. 110 pounds of LBM.... @ 6'2.... um.... To say that you are a fucking idiot would be a understatement...

Bro, all assholishness aside, I dont think I am that far off on that one. Not to mention that your height tends to vary by an inch or so every few posts, I dont believe that in this pic:

What starts to show first when getting abs?

You are:

1. 180lbs
2. 11% Bf.

Just sayin.

This will be my last post in this thread, I shouldnt have posted at all. I tried to give you some friendly advice, against my better judgment, since apparently nothing else is working for you, and you came back arguing about your "dedication" (which is shit by the way), then you call me an idiot repeatedly. Fuck off kid. Good luck on your journey to wherever.

Hit that bitch!

I got to look the way I do in my profile picture thanks to P90X. I didn't want to share cause I dont want everyone to look like me.

Gotta chime in here..you may have covered this topic before, but being new I wouldn't know..you stated you couldn't eat alot or you would get "sick", or if you ate the wrong "thing" you would get "sick" and throw up. Did you have gastric bypass surgery?? If so, this could be an underlying problem for you. It could also be a reason for your motivation issues. If you don't have the proper balances of fuel in your body you aren't going to add much muscle man..sorry, but it's just how the body works. You may want to check into some supplements to fill in what you're not getting in your diet, however, FOOD is the best way to go. I"ve gone through the whole thread and it seems as though you have been given some very good advice, past and present. I might add that you seem to be focused on your body parts prematurely. Just get in the gym and TRAIN! Nevermind worrying about how your arms look, or if you have a "peak", or whether the line down your gut means you have "abs"..and so on. At this point, that's all just silly crap for you to be concerned with. You need to make some "noticeable" gains before you post pics..I would have to agree with JTomlinson, I see no difference in any of them. Hit the gym, train hard, then take a pic in a couple of months and put the b4 and after next to each other and ask yourself do you HONESTLY see a difference. IF you DO, I think you'll be surprised at how much motivation that will give you. HEY, you lost the weight, even if it was bypass surgery..now it's time to build it back up the way you really want it to look. Think of it as a second chance man. Now get to the gym, oh, and make sure you take your friend with you.

Good Luck bro

Originally Posted by lifthvy

Gotta chime in here..you may have covered this topic before, but being new I wouldn't know..you stated you couldn't eat alot or you would get "sick", or if you ate the wrong "thing" you would get "sick" and throw up. Did you have gastric bypass surgery?? If so, this could be an underlying problem for you. It could also be a reason for your motivation issues. If you don't have the proper balances of fuel in your body you aren't going to add much muscle man..sorry, but it's just how the body works. You may want to check into some supplements to fill in what you're not getting in your diet, however, FOOD is the best way to go. I"ve gone through the whole thread and it seems as though you have been given some very good advice, past and present. I might add that you seem to be focused on your body parts prematurely. Just get in the gym and TRAIN! Nevermind worrying about how your arms look, or if you have a "peak", or whether the line down your gut means you have "abs"..and so on. At this point, that's all just silly crap for you to be concerned with. You need to make some "noticeable" gains before you post pics..I would have to agree with JTomlinson, I see no difference in any of them. Hit the gym, train hard, then take a pic in a couple of months and put the b4 and after next to each other and ask yourself do you HONESTLY see a difference. IF you DO, I think you'll be surprised at how much motivation that will give you. HEY, you lost the weight, even if it was bypass surgery..now it's time to build it back up the way you really want it to look. Think of it as a second chance man. Now get to the gym, oh, and make sure you take your friend with you.

Good Luck bro

I lost the weight due to dieting and I have "G.E.R.D" Basically it's a bad case of acid reflux... No meds work and surgery is the only option but due to no medical insurance, that's out of the question...

About the pics
Here is before. (190 pounds)


This is now.






Ehh if that's not muscle gains I don't know what is...


Also about the supps I have protein, creatine monohydrate, beta alanine and glutamine... I try to take in as much protein as I can but I had to substitute meals for it and it just ended up making me lose weight..

Why are you always on the defense?? I saw nothing in my post that ridiculed you. If you are confident content with your gains/appearance then why ask people for there opinion?? You pose these ridiculous questions and when somebody is HONEST with there answer and it's not what you want to hear you bash them. It's time to grow up kid and lose the attitude. I'm sure you don't get away with it in person..somebody would be bound to knock you flat on your ass. I posted a thread "1st cycle" a few days ago...Unfortunately for me, I didn't know proper protocol (which I should have) I got some responses and somebody reminded me that I would get more help if I gave my stats, etc. I certainly didn't bash them for it bro. After that I took the information I was given and did my own research and came up with a solid and sound plan..this is what I think these guys are expecting from you..they're giving you the info and your not doing anything with it and it's pissing them off and rightly so, add in the attitude and your pretty screwed man...peace and good luck, was trying to help, but you couldn't see that through your insecurities.

Originally Posted by readyformore

I lost the weight due to dieting and I have "G.E.R.D" Basically it's a bad case of acid reflux... No meds work and surgery is the only option but due to no medical insurance, that's out of the question...

About the pics
Here is before. (190 pounds)


This is now.






Ehh if that's not muscle gains I don't know what is...


Also about the supps I have protein, creatine monohydrate, beta alanine and glutamine... I try to take in as much protein as I can but I had to substitute meals for it and it just ended up making me lose weight..

you look good bro and you look exactly like my nephew, anyhow your making gains. work the wheels to. calfs ect. not a put down ,just to look more balanced. whatever your doing its working so keep up the great work. by the way if you take to much medication for gerd, it will dry up the all 3 acid points in your stomach and can make you sick. if you need a medication take zantac as that only hits "one acid hole " the others like protonix hits all 3 and not good at all. i say protonix because the dr are pushing that now. or aciphex. just a word of caution because if you hit all 3 "holes " your stomach wont be able to digest anything as theres no acid to digest it with. good luck brother.

Originally Posted by unclem

you look good bro and you look exactly like my nephew, anyhow your making gains. work the wheels to. calfs ect. not a put down ,just to look more balanced. whatever your doing its working so keep up the great work.

I know... I'm stupid and use my knee problems as an excuse to not work out my legs but I have 2 knee braces so I'll have to start back up with it... I do a lot of running and play basketball a lot as well so that helps me out but still it isn't good enough.

by the way if you take to much medication for gerd, it will dry up the all 3 acid points in your stomach and can make you sick. if you need a medication take zantac as that only hits "one acid hole " the others like protonix hits all 3 and not good at all. i say protonix because the dr are pushing that now. or aciphex. just a word of caution because if you hit all 3 "holes " your stomach wont be able to digest anything as theres no acid to digest it with. good luck brother.

Yeah actually the RX medicine that they gave me is 300mg Zantac. They've tried all of the other medication and none of it worked at all... Ehh it sucks, right? I'm just glad I don't care for food like I used to!

ROFL, I can't believe I missed this jewel of a thread. JMorrison had me rolling!