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    If you were picking a shoe off the floor you were probably bending down and twisting. Its these combined movements that lead to injury. that's a fact.

    Chiropractors think that EVERYTHING stems from a bony mal-allignment.
    PT's are taught to treat muscular damage, imbalance..etc
    Doctors dont care HOW something gets fixed, just that they get to send their patient to a medical professional and they get good care.

    *I think you twisted wrong and its not an acute strain--there was no exertion that would warrant a strain. I hope you feel better soon. If it was my body, I'd take a hot shower, do some gentle stretching, and then watch a 30minute show on my stomach up on my elbows. This helps put the spine in an ideal therapeutic position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheappinz View Post
    If you were picking a shoe off the floor you were probably bending down and twisting. Its these combined movements that lead to injury. that's a fact.

    Chiropractors think that EVERYTHING stems from a bony mal-allignment.
    PT's are taught to treat muscular damage, imbalance..etc
    Doctors dont care HOW something gets fixed, just that they get to send their patient to a medical professional and they get good care.

    *I think you twisted wrong and its not an acute strain--there was no exertion that would warrant a strain. I hope you feel better soon. If it was my body, I'd take a hot shower, do some gentle stretching, and then watch a 30minute show on my stomach up on my elbows. This helps put the spine in an ideal therapeutic position.

    Thanks for the advice & I think your probably spot on!

    I actually decided to go ahead & take another day off today, just to make sure. I ended up going down to the river & wrestled a couple of cat fish this morning. I'm looking forward to hitting it hard again, starting tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fufu View Post
    I think Flathead would be better suited dealing with some sort of physical therapist/LMT that works with athletes. But any of the above would probably work if they were skilled pros.
    Hey! Remember this post?

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    deep tissue massage and chiropractic tx.

    HTFH
    combo of massage and chiro to address both soft tissue and hard tissue realignment.

    My chiro is also a CSCS, was an athlete (still in great shape), and works with many athletes all the way up to pro level. He knows his shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmw View Post
    Hey! Remember this post?



    combo of massage and chiro to address both soft tissue and hard tissue realignment.

    My chiro is also a CSCS, was an athlete (still in great shape), and works with many athletes all the way up to pro level. He knows his shit.
    Yes I do remember that, and I still think it is not a good idea to undergo deep tissue massage on an injured area before understanding the injury well. Deep tissue massage can actually make things worse. The first post you said "deep tissue", and now you say "massage", which can mean lots of things.

    I'm not saying deep tissue is not the answer, but simply recommending it with out any knowledge of the injury is foolish.

    And yes, your chiro may be great, but what is your point? There are lots of good professionals and lots of crappy ones.

    Your chiro and some chiro that Flathead would be referred to through insurance are bound to be different.

    I'll repeat what I said in my original post, with some elaboration. Seeing an accountable, skilled, well studied, well experienced pro, from any discipline, would be the best option. That means chiros, PT's, LMT's, whatever.
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    There are times when a chiropractor is needed and times when a doctor is needed. A good chiropractor will check you out and you yourself must tell them your injury, how you injured it, and then they can test for any bone alignment problems. My chiro did that for my ankle, did some mobility & strength tests, demostrated where the bone on the good foot is and the bone on the injured foot is (I could easily tell after he pointed it out that it was an alignment issue), adjusted it (loud pop) and it healed up nicely along with strengthening exercises on my own I did.

    Ankle rolls are a different issue than what some of you are experiencing. Ankle rolls are alignment problems, back nerve problems are a different issue. A good chiropractor will do different movement tests to see what is not moving smoothly, feel it, and if he cannot fix you, he will be honest with you and recommend you to a doctor.

    Any chiropractor..I mean ANY CHIROPRACTOR that just adjusts your injuries without doing different testing, asking questions, and feeling the injury is not a good chiropractor. You also have to watch out for chiropractors that just do the upper body and not the lower body. What could affect the upper body could be coming from somewhere in the lower body. Some chiropractors just want your money and they are the ones that do not go through tests on you to see if there is a bone in the wrong place or alignment issue or whatever they call it.

    If something is sprained, all the chiro will do check for bone misalignment, do testing, adjust you, and prepare it to heal correctly. Thats it. He also may recommend exercises to help strengthen. Once something is sprained, its weak and has to be re-strengthened.

    If something is pulled or strained, you have to rest and ICE.

    If something is broken or torn, defiantly go to a doctor because a chiropractor will not be able to help you.

    You should be able to tell the difference between an ache, sharp pain, dull pain, torn tendon/muscle/ligament, sprain, strain, a knott/tightness/trigger point, nerve problem, etc. If you are unsure of the symptoms and what it may be, google it. That is what I do. Most of my issues are trigger point/knott/tightness related except for the ankle sprain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caangelxox View Post
    There are times when a chiropractor is needed and times when a doctor is needed. A good chiropractor will check you out and you yourself must tell them your injury, how you injured it, and then they can test for any bone alignment problems. My chiro did that for my ankle, did some mobility & strength tests, demostrated where the bone on the good foot is and the bone on the injured foot is (I could easily tell after he pointed it out that it was an alignment issue), adjusted it (loud pop) and it healed up nicely along with strengthening exercises on my own I did.

    Ankle rolls are a different issue than what some of you are experiencing. Ankle rolls are alignment problems, back nerve problems are a different issue. A good chiropractor will do different movement tests to see what is not moving smoothly, feel it, and if he cannot fix you, he will be honest with you and recommend you to a doctor.

    Any chiropractor..I mean ANY CHIROPRACTOR that just adjusts your injuries without doing different testing, asking questions, and feeling the injury is not a good chiropractor. You also have to watch out for chiropractors that just do the upper body and not the lower body. What could affect the upper body could be coming from somewhere in the lower body. Some chiropractors just want your money and they are the ones that do not go through tests on you to see if there is a bone in the wrong place or alignment issue or whatever they call it.

    If something is sprained, all the chiro will do check for bone misalignment, do testing, adjust you, and prepare it to heal correctly. Thats it. He also may recommend exercises to help strengthen. Once something is sprained, its weak and has to be re-strengthened.

    If something is pulled or strained, you have to rest and ICE.

    If something is broken or torn, defiantly go to a doctor because a chiropractor will not be able to help you.

    You should be able to tell the difference between an ache, sharp pain, dull pain, torn tendon/muscle/ligament, sprain, strain, a knott/tightness/trigger point, nerve problem, etc. If you are unsure of the symptoms and what it may be, google it. That is what I do. Most of my issues are trigger point/knott/tightness related except for the ankle sprain.
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    I got better direction/advice on here, than I did from my own family doctor! His advice was take some Hydrocodone & lay down?????!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flathead View Post
    I got better direction/advice on here, than I did from my own family doctor! His advice was take some Hydrocodone & lay down?????!!!!!!
    That is typical of a GP, "take some pain meds and come back in 6 weeks if it still hurts". I find that you really have to push for a referral to see someone specific, they tend not to do that on their own.
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    baby, I am a licenced physical therapist. that's why I usually chime in with the injury threads.

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    Many times there are injuries like you explained, "hurt my back picking up a shoe or brushing my teeth" whatever its because there is no development in any of your smaller type one postural muscles (erector spinae, TVA, Multifidus) We get so caught up in deadlifts and big compound movement lifts and we get size, but we are like a ferrari with a $hitty engine. Next routine you do add a few days in doing some supermans prone cobras, lower abdominal work on the mat. Or if you dont want the embarresment of doing exercises like that at the gym which alot of guys say just do them a few times a week at home in the morning, so you build up more stability... again im talking about the guy who is sayin i killed it on DL the past week, and then F'd my back up doing something small.. hope it heals up soon.

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