Thread: Dead Lifts with Back or Legs routine?

In my opinion, if you can still deadlift after squatting then you aren't squatting hard enough and visa versa. I personally try to seperate the two as far from each other as possible, it will only make you stronger in both lifts and they are the big lifts that matter.
I'd keep deadlifting on back days or make add an extra day for D lifts only. JMO

id deadlift on "arm day".... right after youv done BB curls in the rack... squat when u train shoulders, do 9 exercise of isolation for shoulders 4 sets of 18 reps.. same sets n rep ranges for biceps aswel... oh yea n grunt heaps. N tight fluro spandex shorts never hurt aswel.
Does this question seriously need to b asked every week????

Originally Posted by Hutchym8

id deadlift on "arm day".... right after youv done BB curls in the rack... squat when u train shoulders, do 9 exercise of isolation for shoulders 4 sets of 18 reps.. same sets n rep ranges for biceps aswel... oh yea n grunt heaps. N tight fluro spandex shorts never hurt aswel.
Does this question seriously need to b asked every week????

Give the guy a break, I remember asking this same question years ago.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

In my opinion, if you can still deadlift after squatting then you aren't squatting hard enough and visa versa. I personally try to seperate the two as far from each other as possible, it will only make you stronger in both lifts and they are the big lifts that matter.
I'd keep deadlifting on back days or make add an extra day for D lifts only. JMO

Cheers 4 clearing that up, makes sense. will take into consideration the extra d lift day when free time permits

yea i knw was a litle harsh but seriously how many times does it get asked... all the push pul boys love rapin the shit outv this question

Originally Posted by Hutchym8

id deadlift on "arm day".... right after youv done BB curls in the rack... squat when u train shoulders, do 9 exercise of isolation for shoulders 4 sets of 18 reps.. same sets n rep ranges for biceps aswel... oh yea n grunt heaps. N tight fluro spandex shorts never hurt aswel.
Does this question seriously need to b asked every week????

Sorry didnt mean to cause you a full mental breakdown

Deads are 90% leg dominate. I would suggest having two lower days on your split where one day is designated squats & the other to deads. Use these as your core lifts on those days & build your accessory exercises around them.

I wouldn't be able to deadlift after I squat. It's hard enough to walk the next morning as it is. I still waddle for 2 days afterward.

This thread has Phineas written all over it, your going to make him angry and you wont like him when hes angry lol where are you Phineas?????

Personally mate, i think the important thing is that your deadlifting in the first place, put it where ever feels comfortable for you. I as it happens do mine on a leg day most times.

Just pick a day and do them. When you do them isn't that significant.

Originally Posted by Flathead

Deads are 90% leg dominate. I would suggest having two lower days on your split where one day is designated squats & the other to deads. Use these as your core lifts on those days & build your accessory exercises around them.

My response will always be this. Flathead nailed it. It's a ham/glute-dominant lift. Put it wherever you want, but acknowledge that it IS a leg lift.

Originally Posted by gtbmed

Just pick a day and do them. When you do them isn't that significant.

I also agree with this. I prefer having lower push and lower pull sessions, but everyone's different. I'll argue to the death until everyone accepts that deadlifts are NOT back work, but ultimately as long as you're doing them then you're already miles ahead of most people.

Still, if you can handle two days of leg compounds, split leg work into push and pull days (squat variations/dead variations).

I don't squat and deadlift on the same day, but I know many people do. I like to separate these lifts because they are the two toughest and most challenging. Plus, I like doing multiple versions of both lifts, so I'd be in the gym for hours. If I pull on Sat. I don't come back to squats until Tuesday. Just the way I like to do it. I do some shoulder work after squatting, and the rest of my week includes a Chest/Tricep day and a Back/Bicep day. Nothing wrong with putting a little more emphasis on the lower body. Most folks do the opposite, but this seems to work for me.

I do deadlifts and front squats on the same day. Feels like there's too much pressure on my back if I do regular squats with deadlifts.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

In my opinion, if you can still deadlift after squatting then you aren't squatting hard enough and visa versa. I personally try to seperate the two as far from each other as possible, it will only make you stronger in both lifts and they are the big lifts that matter.
I'd keep deadlifting on back days or make add an extra day for D lifts only. JMO

yea I'm more in this boat. The last time I did deads after squats I hurt my lower back. I already have moderate scoliosis(and so do many other people and don't know it) There will be at least three days space in between deads and squats for me.

i always do deads on leg day in 1hr 15 min iam done with both.

Impressive. Nothing wrong with doing it all together if it works for you. I know a lot of lifters who do. Especially if you can finish in just over an hour.

Originally Posted by BillHicksFan

In my opinion, if you can still deadlift after squatting then you aren't squatting hard enough and visa versa. I personally try to seperate the two as far from each other as possible, it will only make you stronger in both lifts and they are the big lifts that matter.
I'd keep deadlifting on back days or make add an extra day for D lifts only. JMO

Could be, or it could be that you just have a good work capacity that has developed by training this way.

People can adapt to training density just like any other training variable.

Originally Posted by gtbmed

Could be, or it could be that you just have a good work capacity that has developed by training this way.

People can adapt to training density just like any other training variable.

If I was to squat my max on Tuesday, I know that my max deadlift would be much higher if I waited until friday as opposed to deadlifting on that same Tuesday. I believe that these are the two most important lifts therefore I don't want to sell myself short.

There is no way I could squat my normal weight range if I were to deadlift beforehand.