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thansk
This thread is god aweful and filled with nonsense. For one. what does "tighten up" mean....and please don't say "tone". There is no routine for getting rid of excess fat, if that's what you're looking for....? If you want to make the muscles firmer well just about anything will do when you're starting.
Skull Crushers to me are for the advanced. They are too high risk for me and I don't do them often. Stick with the basics if you're not going to do some complex moves like bench press and dips or pushups. I would recommend you learn the form for your complex lifts first, i.e. Bench press, dumbbell presses, dips. This way you can add more weight later and really get into some body sculpting(not bulking). You can firm up doing enough reps and intensity of any pushing exercise. You shouldn't go heavy with low reps until you've used lighter weights, higher reps as a beginner while you were learning your correct movements. But who wants to know that stuff nowadays...??? We want instant internt like gratification.
On the fliip side, getting rid of fat is a dietary thing. That's another story.
It's 3am where I'm at so I'm going to bed. I may chime in later. Geez.
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increase reps and lower weight. Do last set until exhaustion. Also hit the heavy and speed bags if you have access to them. Those are great arm workouts, afterwards you wont be able to lift your arms.
In more situations than not, this just puts too much of a strain on the nervous system, especially in reasonably new trainees.
In order to properly utilize those pieces of equipment, one would at least need to be able to properly tape up/prepare their hands (or have access to someone or learn how to do it themselves). With the proper education, it is a solid conditioning modality.
For what it's worth and just a general FYI: having exhausted body parts essentially signifies that the resources needed for proper function have been temporarily 'spent'. It is no indication at all of whether the behavior that caused the exhaustion will ultimately lead to increases in strength or hypertrophy.
In this particular case, I don't think calling it a 'good arm workout' is really appropriate. I feel like that statement would be more associated with strength and/or hypertrophy (like deadlifting). Rather, heavy/speed bag word is excellent for overall metabolic conditioning.

@ m11, dude your way too technical for me. Hyper what? I boxed for along time in military, and it felt like a good workout to me....minus all the technicalities. My arms were toned and ripped and like you said gave me a good "over all metabolic conditioning". For us dummies,
I felt the burn after 5 rounds on the bags. But good advice m11, real good advice.
hypertrophy = muscle growth
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for the service.

all good advice
6'4" / 265 lbs/36 yrs old.bench 365 incline 275, decline 335,leg ext. machine; entire stack
leg press 810lbs,sled 500lbs,seated dips 410lbs
chest press 400lbs,shrugs 450-500lbs
it'll be a while before i'll be able to do a 60 lb. curl! slowly but surely.....
Unless you have a desire to curl 60# or, while taking in a surplus of calories, want to increase your bicep size beyond what you would achieve from a variety of pulling movements...hopefully you'll never have to both with that movement.
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