Thread: Over Training is then Overkill?

over training/over reaching, etc. what ever you want to call it happens when the CNS is not allowed to fully recover after numerous sessions of high intensity exercise. this causes the inability to effectively contract the muscles voluntarily during exercise, sport, etc.

this is where varying rep ranges, training loads, periodization, etc. come into play to prevent CNS burnout and strength training plateaus.

What are your goals first of all?

Nightowl, since we find you in this part of the forum, I'll drop my two cents.

After you respond to Merkaba's question, ditch your current training routine and heed the advice that will be forthcoming.

When you workout you subject your body to stresses it's not used to. This forces the body to adapt and become stronger so it can deal with those stresses the next time.

If you don't give you body enough time to make that adaptation, (heal) it will actually get weaker. That is the condition commonly known as overtraining. It really doesn't have all that much to do with the training itself, but more to do with not giving yourself enough time between training sessions to completely recover.

Over training is overkill. If you are over training, you will not make the progress you are looking for.

Look at it this way:

If you take up the guitar, you will likely get a blister since your body isn't used to this stress and you have fairly soft skin on your fingers. The strings are metal, they'll irritate your skin, and hence the blister forms to protect you.

At this point you should either take a break from playing the guitar for a few days, or at least play a lot less. If you don't, the blister will burst - you have put too much stress on the body and it can't cope because you didn't let it repair the blister. This is over-reaching - an acute reduction of your ability to perform as well.

If you were an idiot and kept playing guitar with a burst blister, you'll probably eventually draw blood and maybe get an infection. At this point your body is totally unable to do anything about your injury because in this example you're not even giving it enough time to form a scab and start healing the wound. This is overtraining, a chronic syndrome affecting not only your ability to train, but also other elements of your life.

However, if you stopped when you had a blister your body would have dealt with the new stress and formed a callous on your finger - it would have STRENGTHENED the area that was being stressed, to make it BETTER ABLE TO HANDLE THAT STRESS IN THE FUTURE. In terms of training, this is where your body increases muscle size or strength or endurance through relevant physiological adaptations.

Its pretty much the same basic process with everything else your body has to deal with.

Originally Posted by Gazhole

Look at it this way:

If you take up the guitar, you will likely get a blister since your body isn't used to this stress and you have fairly soft skin on your fingers. The strings are metal, they'll irritate your skin, and hence the blister forms to protect you.

At this point you should either take a break from playing the guitar for a few days, or at least play a lot less. If you don't, the blister will burst - you have put too much stress on the body and it can't cope because you didn't let it repair the blister. This is over-reaching - an acute reduction of your ability to perform as well.

If you were an idiot and kept playing guitar with a burst blister, you'll probably eventually draw blood and maybe get an infection. At this point your body is totally unable to do anything about your injury because in this example you're not even giving it enough time to form a scab and start healing the wound. This is overtraining, a chronic syndrome affecting not only your ability to train, but also other elements of your life.

However, if you stopped when you had a blister your body would have dealt with the new stress and formed a callous on your finger - it would have STRENGTHENED the area that was being stressed, to make it BETTER ABLE TO HANDLE THAT STRESS IN THE FUTURE. In terms of training, this is where your body increases muscle size or strength or endurance through relevant physiological adaptations.

Its pretty much the same basic process with everything else your body has to deal with.

This is your free workout and guitar lesson.

Overtraining isn't overkill....

THIS -- IS OVERKILL!!!

Sorry, i've been playing guitar all day so it was on my mind :P

Originally Posted by Gazhole

Sorry, i've been playing guitar all day so it was on my mind :P

Suuuuure. Then how come the blisters are on your palms instead of on your finger tips?

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Suuuuure. Then how come the blisters are on your palms instead of on your finger tips?

I like g-strings

Originally Posted by gazhole

i like g-strings

ba-dum ching!!!!

Originally Posted by Gazhole

I like g-strings

Bravo! Well played.

Thankyou, try the veal!

Originally Posted by Merkaba

What are your goals first of all?

lose all the body fat, then being able to restart with the usage of gear to build mass muscles. I wish, to have all exercises for a reduction of size, and that which is considered fat.

There and then ready for gear.