Lifting while sore?

Vale Tudo · 10-12-2002, 10:54 AM

If I am sore at all in a certain body part, say my Tris for example, and my tri day comes up and I am still a little sore should I train them or give them another day to rest. I never know which i should do, i dont want to overtrain them, but sometime parts are still sore when their training day comes up. Which would be the most benificial for stregnth and size gains? To wait or train?
Thanks

Scotty the Body · 10-12-2002, 11:24 AM

I would let them rest.
A little light work would be ok to get blood running through them, it can help them to recover but you should let them heal back up before breaking them down again.

Fade · 10-12-2002, 02:02 PM

Yeah if you feel the need to hit them do it light light light.

gopro · 10-12-2002, 02:46 PM

You should not still be sore in a bodypart when its time to train it again. There may be something wrong with your training split or your ability to recover properly. What is your program right now?

Fade · 10-12-2002, 02:57 PM

Oooo good question.

You must now answer to Master Trainer Gopro!

Scotty the Body · 10-12-2002, 03:04 PM

Yeah, what Gopro said!!! I fugured you must be training them more than once a week if they're still sore by the next workout.

twelvepercentt · 10-12-2002, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
You should not still be sore in a bodypart when its time to train it again.

But don't you think a little bit of soreness is okay? I mean, I always a little bit sore, but not like the OMG sore 2-4 days after leg day

Robboe · 10-12-2002, 05:30 PM

Depends on the methods of training you employed for your last session and the methods you plan to employ for the pending session (i.e. relating to failure training).

Josh · 10-12-2002, 05:42 PM

I believe if you're training HST style then there is a chance that a body part is still (a bit) sore when the time to work on it again comes.

- Josh

Vale Tudo · 10-13-2002, 12:58 PM

Well I am using this split.
Mon: Chest/delts/calves
T: Back/Abs
W

ff(maybe abs, and light cardio)
Th: Quads/Hams/calves
Fri: Bis/Tris/Abs
S

ff
S

ff
My problem is that My tris are sometimes a little sore when my Chest day comes around. and since I am using them to some extent, I was just wondering if it is okay or not.
Any suggestions would be great.

twelvepercentt · 10-13-2002, 03:36 PM

Maybe you could try working your chest and back together, and do your first calves session on your cardio day.

gopro · 10-13-2002, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vale Tudo
Well I am using this split.
Mon: Chest/delts/calves
T: Back/Abs
W

ff(maybe abs, and light cardio)
Th: Quads/Hams/calves
Fri: Bis/Tris/Abs
S

ff
S

ff
My problem is that My tris are sometimes a little sore when my Chest day comes around. and since I am using them to some extent, I was just wondering if it is okay or not.
Any suggestions would be great.

If you want to stick to this type of program you may wish to switch Back to mon and Chest to tues. The biceps recover more quickly than the triceps.

miamiguns · 10-13-2002, 08:15 PM

Is it alright to train cardio while my legs are sore from my leg workouts?

LAM · 10-13-2002, 08:51 PM

active recovery principles can be used when lifting sore. but you MUST use less weight (like around 60-70%) than the previous training session for that body part.

twelvepercentt · 10-13-2002, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by miamiguns
Is it alright to train cardio while my legs are sore from my leg workouts?

You know your legs will be less sore after cardio because they will be warmed up! And after cardio is a perfect time to stretch those sore muscles!

twelvepercentt · 10-13-2002, 09:21 PM

Oh, and I would never do any cardio if I waited until my legs weren't sore!

miamiguns · 10-13-2002, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twelvepercentt
Oh, and I would never do any cardio if I waited until my legs weren't sore!

Thanks 12%,

I usually do cardio when I'm still sore but I wanted to make sure.

I've been getting injured alot lately, first my right shoulder and then my upper hamstring. As I approach the big 40

I've been prone to injury

.

The fast and furious days are over for me.

gopro · 10-14-2002, 07:48 AM

Cardio while sore is ok if it is not very high intensity cardio. Light biking or treadmill walking for example, will help your legs to recover, but high incline treadmill walking or sprints would hinder recovery. We all need to find a balance based on our goals.

Vale Tudo · 10-14-2002, 12:08 PM

Thanks for all of the help guys.

Trap-isaurus · 10-16-2002, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro
Cardio while sore is ok if it is not very high intensity cardio. Light biking or treadmill walking for example, will help your legs to recover, but high incline treadmill walking or sprints would hinder recovery. We all need to find a balance based on our goals.

I find the higher the intensity the faster I recover, especially in regards to legs, work the hell out of my legs and two days later when maximum soreness has kicked In Im on the tread or stat. bike after 10-15 mins of sheer agony i can up the intensity for the last half hour, could it also be said that we need to find a balance based on muscle group recovery according to the specific individual?

gopro · 10-16-2002, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BjUaFyF

I find the higher the intensity the faster I recover, especially in regards to legs, work the hell out of my legs and two days later when maximum soreness has kicked In Im on the tread or stat. bike after 10-15 mins of sheer agony i can up the intensity for the last half hour, could it also be said that we need to find a balance based on muscle group recovery according to the specific individual?

While that type of activity can help alleviate soreness it does HINDER the recovery that is necessary for muscular growth to take place.

Trap-isaurus · 10-16-2002, 09:00 PM

i guess im the exception

gopro · 10-17-2002, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BjUaFyF
i guess im the exception

Hey, there are exceptions to EVERY rule

Trap-isaurus · 10-18-2002, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gopro

Hey, there are exceptions to EVERY rule

lol, yes this is true, I dunno it's more of a feeling than anything I could very well be hindering some recovery, but I have always found my legs to be my strongest, fastest recovering, easieast to gain on and shred muscle group, but like I say, for me it's just that feeling of driving the soreness away...........

gopro · 10-18-2002, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BjUaFyF

lol, yes this is true, I dunno it's more of a feeling than anything I could very well be hindering some recovery, but I have always found my legs to be my strongest, fastest recovering, easieast to gain on and shred muscle group, but like I say, for me it's just that feeling of driving the soreness away...........

If your legs are a genetically superior bodypart than the "rules" of recovery may not apply to you for this particular area. The only thing I can say is that your legs MAY be even better if you let them recover more, but the only way you'd know is to see for yourself. Either way...bless you for having such good recovery ability in your legs!

Trap-isaurus · 10-19-2002, 02:59 AM

and believe me when I say thats the only group in which I have good recovery, I think I'll leave em alone for awhile and see what happens ?? can't really say to much until I have compared

gopro · 10-19-2002, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BjUaFyF
and believe me when I say thats the only group in which I have good recovery, I think I'll leave em alone for awhile and see what happens ?? can't really say to much until I have compared

I'll be interested to see what conclusion you come to! Keep me posted!

Trap-isaurus · 10-20-2002, 12:50 AM

NP gopro, legs tommorow

gopro · 10-20-2002, 10:23 AM

Figures!

Snake_Eyes · 10-20-2002, 10:29 AM

Anaerobic work such as sprints or even weight training with moderate weights and short rest intervals will not hinder recovery and may in fact improve it, as Bj is seeing.

It utilizes lactate metabolism yes (which is a good thing), but does not effect the structure of the muscle fiber itself (which is also a good thing).

There's no reason that form of work done without over-taxing the muscle group would hinder recovery. Bj isn't the only one that's noticed that effect.

10-12-2002, 10:54 AM	#1
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	Lifting while sore? If I am sore at all in a certain body part, say my Tris for example, and my tri day comes up and I am still a little sore should I train them or give them another day to rest. I never know which i should do, i dont want to overtrain them, but sometime parts are still sore when their training day comes up. Which would be the most benificial for stregnth and size gains? To wait or train? Thanks

10-12-2002, 11:24 AM	#2
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	I would let them rest. A little light work would be ok to get blood running through them, it can help them to recover but you should let them heal back up before breaking them down again. Cool

10-12-2002, 02:46 PM	#4
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	You should not still be sore in a bodypart when its time to train it again. There may be something wrong with your training split or your ability to recover properly. What is your program right now? All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

10-12-2002, 03:04 PM	#6
Scotty the Body I'm Dead Sexxxxy!! Elite Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 4,970	Yeah, what Gopro said!!! I fugured you must be training them more than once a week if they're still sore by the next workout. Cool

10-12-2002, 05:30 PM	#8
Robboe Designer Supplements Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Newcastle Posts: 5,141	Depends on the methods of training you employed for your last session and the methods you plan to employ for the pending session (i.e. relating to failure training). Being held down by The Man

10-12-2002, 02:02 PM	#3
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	Yeah if you feel the need to hit them do it light light light.

10-12-2002, 02:57 PM	#5
Fade I'm the daddy Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 3,007 Photos: 5	Oooo good question. You must now answer to Master Trainer Gopro!

10-12-2002, 05:42 PM	#9
Josh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Indonesia Posts: 337	I believe if you're training HST style then there is a chance that a body part is still (a bit) sore when the time to work on it again comes. - Josh

10-13-2002, 12:58 PM	#10
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	Well I am using this split. Mon: Chest/delts/calves T: Back/Abs Wff(maybe abs, and light cardio) Th: Quads/Hams/calves Fri: Bis/Tris/Abs Sff Sff My problem is that My tris are sometimes a little sore when my Chest day comes around. and since I am using them to some extent, I was just wondering if it is okay or not. Any suggestions would be great.

10-13-2002, 03:36 PM	#11
twelvepercentt DIVA! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CA Posts: 58	Maybe you could try working your chest and back together, and do your first calves session on your cardio day. CAli Tracy Found at: Leanness Lifestyle.

10-13-2002, 08:15 PM	#13
miamiguns Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Miami Posts: 133	Is it alright to train cardio while my legs are sore from my leg workouts?

10-13-2002, 08:51 PM	#14
LAM Gym ratt/Part-time pimp Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 7,384 Photos: 2	active recovery principles can be used when lifting sore. but you MUST use less weight (like around 60-70%) than the previous training session for that body part. Dumbest statement made in the Anabolic Zone for Nov TBD ----------------------------------------------------- What you talking about Willis ?

10-13-2002, 09:21 PM	#16
twelvepercentt DIVA! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CA Posts: 58	Oh, and I would never do any cardio if I waited until my legs weren't sore! CAli Tracy Found at: Leanness Lifestyle.

10-14-2002, 07:48 AM	#18
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	Cardio while sore is ok if it is not very high intensity cardio. Light biking or treadmill walking for example, will help your legs to recover, but high incline treadmill walking or sprints would hinder recovery. We all need to find a balance based on our goals. All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

10-14-2002, 12:08 PM	#19
Vale Tudo Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 357	Thanks for all of the help guys.

10-16-2002, 09:00 PM	#22
Trap-isaurus Just me, being me. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: !Da' Gym! Da Gym In Canada. Posts: 2,450 Photos: 3	i guess im the exception *^All good things come to those who weight (lift!!!)^* ^I'm the thread killer I'm the thread killer I'm the come from behind I'm the post attacker^

10-19-2002, 02:59 AM	#26
Trap-isaurus Just me, being me. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: !Da' Gym! Da Gym In Canada. Posts: 2,450 Photos: 3	and believe me when I say thats the only group in which I have good recovery, I think I'll leave em alone for awhile and see what happens ?? can't really say to much until I have compared *^All good things come to those who weight (lift!!!)^* ^I'm the thread killer I'm the thread killer I'm the come from behind I'm the post attacker^

10-20-2002, 12:50 AM	#28
Trap-isaurus Just me, being me. Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: !Da' Gym! Da Gym In Canada. Posts: 2,450 Photos: 3	NP gopro, legs tommorow *^All good things come to those who weight (lift!!!)^* ^I'm the thread killer I'm the thread killer I'm the come from behind I'm the post attacker^

10-20-2002, 10:23 AM	#29
gopro NGA/IFPA Pro Bodybuilder Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: GLOBAL! Posts: 10,893	Figures! All American EFX Sponsored Pro Bodybuilder/Internet Marketing Manager P/RR/S DVD and E-Book now available! P/RR/S DVD http://www.home-gym.com/erbrporepras.html P/RR/S E-BOOK html www.X-traordinaryWorkouts.com Monthly columnist for Muscular Development and Ironman magazines. www.prrstraining.com Time to GROW Without Plateau! Personal Training Gopro is available for online personal training, dietary guidance, and contest prep coaching. Send me a PM or e-mail if interested. Thank you.

10-20-2002, 10:29 AM	#30
Snake_Eyes Real American Hero Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nevada Posts: 221	Anaerobic work such as sprints or even weight training with moderate weights and short rest intervals will not hinder recovery and may in fact improve it, as Bj is seeing. It utilizes lactate metabolism yes (which is a good thing), but does not effect the structure of the muscle fiber itself (which is also a good thing). There's no reason that form of work done without over-taxing the muscle group would hinder recovery. Bj isn't the only one that's noticed that effect.

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