Thread: Small tear in rotor cuff, #@%#@& !

tore my left one in 1986. talked to a few nurses i knew and they said that rotator surgery is not a very sucessful type sergury. one nurses boyfriend had his done, and as a baseball player, he would throw here and the ball ended up going there she was saying..

i went to my buddy thats a chiorpractor and he did ultra sound on mine, mon wed fri for a few months. is SLOWLY healed.. a few years later i still felt it.. could do pushups and pullups, but the pulling movement of freestyle swimming was way too much pain..can do some movements but not others..

work around it if you can.


its a very delicate opperation and from the people i know that had it done, results are not good. thats why i did the non surgery..

my opinion... dont ever ever get cut on if you can avoid it..

Get the book "Muscle Medicine." They talk extensively about shoulder surgeries and how the majority aren't required. They suggest a mixture of manual therapy to target muscles and active stretching. Written by the Jet's orthopedist and chiropractor if I recall correctly.

i tore mine a little over two years ago with behind neck presses.....never had surgery and have gone as long as 6 months out of the gym hoping it would heal......it never has to this day.....every training session irritates the surrounding areas....good luck with your surgery and recovery

Originally Posted by irish_2003

i tore mine a little over two years ago with behind neck presses.....never had surgery and have gone as long as 6 months out of the gym hoping it would heal......it never has to this day.....every training session irritates the surrounding areas....good luck with your surgery and recovery

Have you ever looked into manual therapy irish? In Muscle Medicine they talk about how the injury causes scaring in the muscle that generally doesn't heal. In manual therapy they will break up the scar tissue and allow the muscle/join to heal itself properly. Something worth looking into and a hell of a lot cheaper (With the possibility of being more successful) than surgery. There is no scan for muscle damage so the only way to really tell is to try therapy.

Tore my right one my Senior year in High school pitching. Hurts like hell. I did have surgery, and recovered quickly enough to play football the following fall.

I am 1 month back from rotator cuff/labram surgery... I was supposed to be off for 4-6 months, I was back to work and back in the gym in 3 months. Shoulder feels great and I am am back benching, and pulling. IMO the success of the surgery is based on the surgeon. I had the oppurtunity to got to a sport ortho surgeon and he understood what it is to powerlift and did what he had to do based on his knowledge of the sport and his years of working on other athelites.. I wish you luck!!!

Originally Posted by Life

Have you ever looked into manual therapy irish? In Muscle Medicine they talk about how the injury causes scaring in the muscle that generally doesn't heal. In manual therapy they will break up the scar tissue and allow the muscle/join to heal itself properly. Something worth looking into and a hell of a lot cheaper (With the possibility of being more successful) than surgery. There is no scan for muscle damage so the only way to really tell is to try therapy.

i'm a student right now so no insurance plan....i have to research and do my own rehab.....can you provide a link with some info?

Originally Posted by irish_2003

i'm a student right now so no insurance plan....i have to research and do my own rehab.....can you provide a link with some info?

How To Stretch A Rotator Cuff | LIVESTRONG.COM

Check your library for books on manual therapy. I'm sure you'll find something. Not much is available online though..

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

I am 1 month back from rotator cuff/labram surgery... I was supposed to be off for 4-6 months, I was back to work and back in the gym in 3 months. Shoulder feels great and I am am back benching, and pulling. IMO the success of the surgery is based on the surgeon. I had the oppurtunity to got to a sport ortho surgeon and he understood what it is to powerlift and did what he had to do based on his knowledge of the sport and his years of working on other athelites.. I wish you luck!!!

This,^^^ I would spend as much time researching Doc's in your area as possible. And personally I think the younger Docs are more cutting edge than the old guys who have been out of med school for 25 years.

Originally Posted by Big Dawg

I am 1 month back from rotator cuff/labram surgery... I was supposed to be off for 4-6 months, I was back to work and back in the gym in 3 months. Shoulder feels great and I am am back benching, and pulling. IMO the success of the surgery is based on the surgeon. I had the oppurtunity to got to a sport ortho surgeon and he understood what it is to powerlift and did what he had to do based on his knowledge of the sport and his years of working on other athelites.. I wish you luck!!!

Thats great bro, how old are you ? im going to try and wait as long as i can and work around it for now, and get a few more opions, at 46 im not to sure Im going to heal that quick ! lol Just got back from gym did chest and tri's and some real slow lite shugs to failure, now sitting here with a bag of ice ! lol Thanks everyone for their input ! Ill be looking into all options.

Thats great bro, how old are you ? im going to try and wait as long as i can and work around it for now, and get a few more opions, at 46 im not to sure Im going to heal that quick ! lol Just got back from gym did chest and tri's and some real slow lite shugs to failure, now sitting here with a bag of ice ! lol Thanks everyone for their input ! Ill be looking into all options.

I am 40 y/o.. good luck, waiting was not an option for me, I could not lift my arm and I have a very physical job so surgery was really my only option.

20-60mcg IGF-1 ED in the front head of the injured shoulder POST WORKOUT. Avoid any overhead pressing, make sure you warm up and stretch LIGHTLY but spend some good time doing it. Anything else just PM me.

-T

Originally Posted by TwisT

20-60mcg IGF-1 ED in the front head of the injured shoulder POST WORKOUT. Avoid any overhead pressing, make sure you warm up and stretch LIGHTLY but spend some good time doing it. Anything else just PM me.

-T

Avoid any overhead pressing, ?? How long ? What does Igf do ?

injury to the shoulder girdle can last a lifetime you don't want to fuck around with that. take some time off and do whatever the PT, orthopedic, etc. tells you to do. muscle memory will take care of you once you can hit the gym hard again.

Originally Posted by Retlaw

Avoid any overhead pressing, ?? How long ? What does Igf do ?

Depends on the severity of the tear, really. Yours sounds pretty bad, so I would avoid it for a while... I can whip up a shoulder day workout for ya that will put the least strain on it if you need. But when you're pressing weight straight overhead, you are putting the most strain on the cuff, so that's where you need to be careful. I sent you info on IGF, but you can also read the profile in the elite section-

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/an...r-igf-1-a.html

-T

What did you do to cause the tear?

You need to address the issues that caused it in the first place. As well working on the Stabalizers to fire properly during movement. Find a good athletic Therapist. They are worth there weight in gold.

I had my labrum repaired just over 2 years ago. Biggest asset was a good doctor and good therapist. I changed my therapist part way through my rehab, best thing I could have done.

What did you do to cause the tear?

You need to address the issues that caused it in the first place. As well working on the Stabalizers to fire properly during movement. Find a good athletic Therapist. They are worth there weight in gold.

I had my labrum repaired just over 2 years ago. Biggest asset was a good doctor and good therapist. I changed my therapist part way through my rehab, best thing I could have done.

Bump to this!!! Doing rotator work thru-out your workouts is going to be key, IMO.. You might want to check out what TwistT can put together for you for a good workout.. I also can give you my routine I got from my PT. It was worth its weight in gold.

Having rotator cuff and overall shoulder issues for many years, I can totally relate. My injuries are predominately from football and extremely heavy lifting, when I was body building. Needless to say, I will never do a behind the neck barbell press ever again. That has to be the worst exercise to exacerbate a pre-existing injury or to cause one in the future. Today, I’m virtually pain free, even though my MRI’s showed that I have shoulder damage of a 60 year old man (I’m 38). What I ended doing is training lighter (may not be an option for your goals) and managed the acute pain with Ibuprofen (800-1600mgs daily) and received to two cortisone shots in a single year. The cortisone seemed to do the trick and with the occasional Ibuprofen, I’m good to go. If you cannot tolerate Ibuprofen (stomach/ ulcer issues), I would look into Sodium Hyaluronate therapy. I have used this for the tendons in my knees with much success.

Surgery is always a last resort and the rehab can be long and painful. Not always, with the right Dr’s and supplementation.

Good Luck!

i would avoid cortisone shots.. Cortisone Friend or Foe

i would go with surgery, but thats me. ive known a lot of people that get rotator surgery and its quite successful. what they are able to do now days is amazing, its not like its the 1900's.

Originally Posted by PreMier

i would avoid cortisone shots.. Cortisone Friend or Foe

i would go with surgery, but thats me. ive known a lot of people that get rotator surgery and its quite successful. what they are able to do now days is amazing, its not like its the 1900's.

My brother had surgery last year on his rotar cuff, and is almost back up at 100%.