Traps

**Trap-isaurus** · 10-22-2002, 03:22 AM

Got asked an interesting question at the gym today.......

When doing BB DB shrugs is it better to roll your shoulders or lift them straight up and down??

I always lift em up and down.

**Rissole** · 10-22-2002, 04:05 AM

By the looks of it you'd know!! Lmao

**Preacher** · 10-22-2002, 04:20 AM

I think you can reazlly do some damage to your rotator cuff
when "rolling" your shoulders with ample weight ..

**Brad224** · 10-22-2002, 08:18 AM

I always go straight up and down. I've heard the same about damaging your rotator cuff by rolling the shoulders.

Another question - do you guys do bb shrugs in front or in the back? I did it in the back for the first time the other day and I can still feel it in my traps. I'm trying to figure out if it's due to the shock of a new method or just that behind the back is much more effective?

**Scotty the Body** · 10-22-2002, 09:19 AM

Yup, straight up and down is the way to do'em.

Brad, I wonder if like doing pulldowns or military press behind the head, maybe doing shrugs behind the back is also bad for your shoulders as well? I'm not sure but I would almost think so.

**Brad224** · 10-22-2002, 10:17 AM

Hadn't thought about that, but it could be a possibility. I will keep that in mind, and see what else I can find out. Thanks for the info, Scotty.

**Mudge** · 10-22-2002, 10:20 AM

Definately up and down, rolling the shoulders is asking for injury. I see many newbies using this though thinking they are somehow covering more of the trap. I like to lean forward ever so slightly (you almost have to with a barbell), and thats about it for techique, up and down up and down.

**Tank316** · 10-22-2002, 10:29 AM

up and down, and when you get to the top make sure your getting a good squeeze[contraction], and when your at the bottom get a good stretch.try static holds for a great trap workout

**Trap-isaurus** · 10-29-2002, 08:40 PM

This is pretty much what I thought and the way I have always done the excercise, but I need three other opinions to verify what Im trying to say to this fella, thanx guys

**Trap-isaurus** · 10-29-2002, 08:57 PM

yeah that works too......Just three others because he is hmmmmm
how to put this delicatley, he gets really weird and strange ideas about how weight should be lifted (not that this is a weird one) and refuses to beleive me when I offer another way...

An example Of something he does which I find strange and can see no benefeit to other than a good stretch.....

This fella likes to do an entire warm up set with just a weightless bar, 4 sets of 15 repetitions.......in a very, very slow manner, it takes him approximatley 20 minutes to get done this odd display.

**Vale Tudo** · 10-31-2002, 09:24 AM

Up and down is definiteyl the only way to go. Just like everyone else said, if you are rolling the shoulder you are just asking for an injury.

**Vale Tudo** · 10-31-2002, 09:26 AM

And Brad, I do traps behind the back about every three back workouts. IMO i think they work great and I have not had any shoulder problems as of yet (knock on wood!) and I beleive that it is just like hitting the trap from another angle. Just like changing your grip on other workouts. I hope they dont cause shoulder problems becasue they work great for me!!

**Max. Q** · 10-31-2002, 10:26 AM

I remember in the 80's seeing everyone in the gym rolling their shoulders for trap workouts, LOL. I guess we learned it was bad to do that from them.

My trap workout consist of: front or behind barbell and side dumbell shrugs, with up and down movements. I also feel a better pump when doing behind barbell shrugs.

**iMadco** · 10-31-2002, 10:30 AM

I do straight up and down.But , I don't go all the way down.

I like to lean forward so slightly.

**Twin Peak** · 10-31-2002, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by Tank316
up and down, and when you get to the top make sure your getting a good squeeze[contraction], and when your at the bottom get a good stretch.try static holds for a great trap workout

Totally agree!

**Training God** · 10-31-2002, 12:02 PM

Do not erase my posts mods!!!!

**ZECH** · 10-31-2002, 12:04 PM

Well try posting something that helps people instead of flaming them!

Ok....you did have a good post on the "outer head of the tri" thread!

**Brad224** · 10-31-2002, 12:08 PM

Good idea Vale Tudo. I might mix it up a little, try every other time or every third time like you. I've only done it behind a couple of times, but haven't experienced any negative shoulder effects yet. Although like Scotty said, it might have a negative effect. I guess I'll just have to use some care (as long as I'm not rolling the shoulders!)

**Training God** · 10-31-2002, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by dg806
Well try posting something that helps people instead of flaming them!

Ok....you did have a good post on the "outer head of the tri" thread!

*** Don't be quick to think that because it was erased it was a flame. It was actually a educational post that answered the posters question in every which way.

**ZECH** · 10-31-2002, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Training God

*** Don't be quick to think that because it was erased it was a flame. It was actually a educational post that answered the posters question in every which way.

I'm not! I'm just basing it on all the other threads I have read. Then you light in on the mods?? I've been silent on all this, because I too think everyone deserves to voice an opinion. And I must agree you come off very strong! Maybe you just need to be careful how you word things?

**ponyboy** · 10-31-2002, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by dg806

I'm not! I'm just basing it on all the other threads I have read. Then you light in on the mods?? I've been silent on all this, because I too think everyone deserves to voice an opinion. And I must agree you come off very strong! Maybe you just need to be careful how you word things?

As for the question, trust someone with rotator cuff problems. Don't roll your shoulders.

**Training God** · 10-31-2002, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by dg806

I'm not! I'm just basing it on all the other threads I have read. Then you light in on the mods?? I've been silent on all this, because I too think everyone deserves to voice an opinion. And I must agree you come off very strong! Maybe you just need to be careful how you word things?

*** My post was fine.
Anyways, I don't care much anymore, no use crying over spilled milk.

**Scotty the Body** · 10-31-2002, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by Training God
Do not erase my posts mods!!!!

I missed that one, but I assume it was a flame if it got erased?

**Scotty the Body** · 10-31-2002, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Training God

*** Don't be quick to think that because it was erased it was a flame. It was actually a educational post that answered the posters question in every which way.

Maybe it was a web fart?

I really didn't see it and as long as it wasn't a flame and contributed to the thread, I'm sure it would still be up.

**Training God** · 10-31-2002, 12:59 PM

Originally posted by Scotty the Body

............. and as long as it wasn't a flame and contributed to the thread, I'm sure it would still be up.

*** Wrong! Someone is making it difficult for me to post on this board. Just like whomever changed my alias to this stupid screen name I have.

**Trap-isaurus** · 10-31-2002, 07:23 PM

if your post was to me then please pm it to me as long as it's educational like you say.

**Lightman009** · 10-31-2002, 11:37 PM

Dont roll. Lift straight up.

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