How do you get huge legs?

Big Nippa · 11-18-2002, 09:03 PM

sorry, I meant to ask what you meant by waiting 4 seconds for the muscles to uncoil? I'm not familiar with this.

Dr. Pain · 11-18-2002, 09:04 PM

Also see.......Biomechanics and elastic energy!

DP

Dr. Pain · 11-18-2002, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by Big Nippa
sorry, I meant to ask what you meant by waiting 4 seconds for the muscles to uncoil? I'm not familiar with this.

Try it...you will see that the normal "recoil" is NOT available!

DP

firestorm · 11-18-2002, 09:24 PM

Sounds painful. I hope none of my muscles are coiled up.

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Originally posted by Big Nippa

what do you mean by uncoiling the muscles?

Dr. Pain · 11-18-2002, 09:35 PM

Short version:

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Stretch Shortening Cycle (Reactive Strength): Although traditionally classified as a component of SS, reactive strength is more accurately thought of as an independent motor quality.5 It involves the storage of potential kinetic energy during the eccentric portion of a movement, which is then converted to actual kinetic energy during the subsequent concentric phase— much like stretching and releasing an elastic band.

During many skills (jumping rope, for example), the working muscles attempt to maintain static contraction, with force output being provided by the storing and release of elastic energy through the tendons. Since static muscular activity requires less energy than dynamic muscular activity, reactive strength is an extremely energy-efficient way of moving— you can do more work with less calories. This is why novice exercisers can always be seen doing exercises in the easiest possible manner, using quick, choppy movements, whether it’s on the bench press or the stair climber. Reactive strength is also the method of choice when someone who is tired and/or weak gets up out of a chair: instead of simply standing up, they will actually lean back first, and then quickly reverse this action, springing out of the chair. If you ask someone to rise out of a chair using pure concentric movement, it looks very unusual. To appreciate the effect of reactive strength on force production, perform a vertical jump in a normal manner, where you first crouch, and then rapidly switch and jump upwards as explosively as possible. Next, crouch, but pause for five seconds (this pause will dissipate most if not all of the stored potential kinetic energy), and then jump upward. You'll find that the jump where the crouch (or eccentric phase) was IMMEDIATELY followed by the jump results in a more successful attempt. The key to preserving as much potential kinetic energy as possible is to switch from eccentric to concentric as rapidly as possible.

Big Nippa · 11-19-2002, 01:04 AM

It will vary from joint to joint but I now see what you were saying. Elbow flexion is aproximately 2.5 seconds while the knee joint is 4.5 secs.

firestorm · 11-19-2002, 01:10 AM

All I know is that all the reading on this thread hurt my eyes.

**gopro** · 11-21-2002, 06:10 AM

Dr Pains posts are freaking me out

ABLQ2 · 05-28-2005, 03:51 AM

I superset squats with leg extensions and stiff legged deadlifts with leg curls and standing calf raises with seated ones. sometimes i throw some regular deadlifts in there too.

myCATpowerlifts · 05-28-2005, 08:58 AM

this thread is 3 years old....I doubt the orgininal poster cares anymore ABLQ...

ABLQ2 · 05-28-2005, 11:40 AM

haha ya... sory im new to this. thanks man.

maniclion · 05-28-2005, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by myCATpowerlifts

this thread is 3 years old....I doubt the orgininal poster cares anymore ABLQ...

I'm glad he bumped this uncoiling sounds interesting and effective.

min0 lee · 05-28-2005, 03:19 PM

Sometimes you can get good info from old posts.

topolo · 05-30-2005, 12:59 AM

I have a huge middle leg

min0 lee · 05-30-2005, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by topolo

I have a huge middle leg

Ah yes, it's called the tripodious muscle.

BulkMeUp · 05-30-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by maniclion

I'm glad he bumped this uncoiling sounds interesting and effective.

Me too. Extremly informative thread, though it hurt my brain.

GymJamo · 05-30-2005, 01:55 PM

leg are funny, i know some guys that have bigish ripped legs (25inch+) and dont even train them and just run, then i know guys that never get big legs and train them hard, but i havent met one guy that has a naturally big upperbody without training.

anyhow squat lots and eat

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11-18-2002, 09:03 PM	#31
Big Nippa Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 7	sorry, I meant to ask what you meant by waiting 4 seconds for the muscles to uncoil? I'm not familiar with this.

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Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Also see.......Biomechanics and elastic energy! DP

11-19-2002, 01:04 AM	#36
Big Nippa Newbie Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Japan Posts: 7	It will vary from joint to joint but I now see what you were saying. Elbow flexion is aproximately 2.5 seconds while the knee joint is 4.5 secs.

11-19-2002, 01:10 AM	#37
firestorm P/RR/S Advisor Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Jersey Posts: 7,765 Photos: 3	All I know is that all the reading on this thread hurt my eyes.

05-28-2005, 03:51 AM	#39
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myCATpowerlifts Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The lone star state Posts: 6,261 Photos: 2	this thread is 3 years old....I doubt the orgininal poster cares anymore ABLQ...

05-28-2005, 11:40 AM	#41
ABLQ2 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Frieburg Posts: 437 Photos: 1	haha ya... sory im new to this. thanks man.