Thread: Possible to train daily if there are no soreness ?

I find that I get the best gains when taking at least a day or two in between to give muscle a chance to fully repair..that's just me though

Soreness isn't an indicator of the effectiveness of your training or degree of recovery.

Originally Posted by Marat

Soreness isn't an indicator of the effectiveness of your training or degree of recovery.

This is truth.

Originally Posted by mazdarx7

I find that I get the best gains when taking at least a day or two in between to give muscle a chance to fully repair..that's just me though

I do that usually. Just pretty curious as i've been doing non-stop the past days.

Originally Posted by Marat

Soreness isn't an indicator of the effectiveness of your training or degree of recovery.

Oh.. Thank you for your enlightenment. But if i were to alternate my triceps and biceps, is that feasible ?

Example

Mon-Biceps
Tues-Triceps
Wed-Biceps
Thurs-Triceps
Fri-Biceps
Sat-Triceps
Sun-Rest

Originally Posted by sPwism

I do that usually. Just pretty curious as i've been doing non-stop the past days.



Oh.. Thank you for your enlightenment. But if i were to alternate my triceps and biceps, is that feasible ?

Example

Mon-Biceps
Tues-Triceps
Wed-Biceps
Thurs-Triceps
Fri-Biceps
Sat-Triceps
Sun-Rest

Growth of a muscle occurs during rest and replensihment (eating). You are never giving the muscles long enough to rest and recover so they can grow. This is absolute overkill, and I'm not trying to be an ass, but is not very well thought out.

You must have an arm complex. Try training the entire body in the span of a week. If you still feel like you can train everyday doing that then you obviously aren't training hard enough. By the way, what you are doing is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. You don't deserve to be called a bodybuilder. Gheys train arms. Men train everything else.
I recommend that you GTFO now. You're embarrassing the rest of us.

I wonder if any of this bicep work is happening in the squat rack?

Bicep and Tricep exercises = Waaaay Overrated.

OP, listen and please take this to heart. Every guy here wants a great set of guns, it's impressive to have and to see. We bodybuild in a way for vanity, I really enjoy being the biggest 50 year old at the gym, and when I take my girl out, it's nice to be able to be the biggest guy in the room most of the time.

But your plan is not sensible and it won't give you what you seek. My arms have grown more in the last two years, and you know what? I only train biceps and triceps with six sets a week each, and some weeks don't train them at all. They get beat up enough through benching, rowing, pull downs, pressing moves, they don't need to much and cetainly not 6 days a week. You keep training them 6 days a week and I will guarantee you something for sure, they will not grow. Guaranteed.

But it's up to you, do what you want.

Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

OP, listen and please take this to heart. Every guy here wants a great set of guns, it's impressive to have and to see. We bodybuild in a way for vanity, I really enjoy being the biggest 50 year old at the gym, and when I take my girl out, it's nice to be able to be the biggest guy in the room most of the time.

But your plan is not sensible and it won't give you what you seek. My arms have grown more in the last two years, and you know what? I only train biceps and triceps with six sets a week each, and some weeks don't train them at all. They get beat up enough through benching, rowing, pull downs, pressing moves, they don't need to much and cetainly not 6 days a week. You keep training them 6 days a week and I will guarantee you something for sure, they will not grow. Guaranteed.

But it's up to you, do what you want.

X2

You don't build muscle or burn fat when you excercise. You do it when you rest.

Originally Posted by sPwism

I've been repetitive trainings for my biceps and triceps the past 3 nights.

Tues - Heavy bicep curls, light reverse bicep curls.
Wed - Push-ups until failure, light bicep curls ( more reps )
Thurs - Tricep dips and hammer curls.

There is a 24 hr interval between each training.
Each time i complete 4 sets of 15 reps for each exercise.
And they usually worn me out by the 3rd set,by i pushed out the 4th set with some assistance.

I understand that i am suppose to give my muscles time to recover.
But if i do not feel any soreness after 24 hrs of the last training,is it possible to train again ?

I just cant leave my dumbbell there when my arms are already refilled with energy from a 24-hr rest.

It's like talking to me " You know you wanna train those biceps out..." " come and curl me up ... "

just because your not sore dosent mean your recoverd!
take 4-7days off BETWEEN working that muscle again! :-)
I basicly go EOD each part one time a week (2 parts per workout mostly)

Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

Growth of a muscle occurs during rest and replensihment (eating). You are never giving the muscles long enough to rest and recover so they can grow. This is absolute overkill, and I'm not trying to be an ass, but is not very well thought out.

i agree!
man 1-2 times a week biceps or any muscle really to acually have tiem to grow.
trust me i put on 8-12lbs a year (about 40-44lb in last 4 yrs and lost some bf%) - just so you know im not some newbie 6ft tall and 136lbs trying to tll you whats best oh also to top it off i also DONT eat meat OR fish (with exception of fishoil)... ;-) yes with aas but thats not the point.

Originally Posted by JerBear1980

X2

You don't build muscle or burn fat when you excercise. You do it when you rest.

I wish more knew this.

When you take the muscle to the level of stress we all do it creates micro tears to the fibers. 24-48hrs I the avg to heal. The healing/resting and nutrition is what causes size. Sometimes we think we're the Terminator but just continue like the Hulk. Over training is like picking at a scab on a cut. you keep tearing the same fibers they wont heal.

My 2cents.

Edit: Soreness doesnt mean jack. I have DOMS. I do legs and i dont get sore until 3-4days later.

Wow you don't get sore for 4 days? That's crazy, I don't think I've ever taken more than a day to get sore.

I now man. Its odd but its really just 3days, but its only my legs and my legs are monstrous, so are my calf's. I have amazing genetics for my legs. If I go too heavy theyll grow and ill have to keep buying new boxers every couple of weeks. most of my jeans dont fit me any more lol

Im still a bit sore this is the WO i did for legs

Superset:

• Leg Extensions:
  2 sets of 30 reps
• Hamstring Curls:
  2 sets of 20 reps

Superset:

• Walking Lunges:
  3 sets of 40 steps
• Standing Hamstring Curls:
  3 sets of 15-20 reps

Leg Press:
3 sets of 50 reps

Superset: Repeat Exercises 1 & 2

• Leg Extensions:
  2 sets of 30 reps
• Hamstring Curls:
  2 sets of 20 reps

But Ill let this dude

Focus more on heavy Deadlifts and Squats if you want size. Amongst other training procedures and advice given.

Size will come, but you really need to lift heavy to get it.

Originally Posted by TJTJ

I have amazing genetics for my legs. If I go too heavy theyll grow and ill have to keep buying new boxers every couple of weeks.

Really? Damn!

Originally Posted by x~factor

Really? Damn!

really. since Im tight on flow what I do is just cut along the sides to allow more space lol

check out my profile, ive got photos

Originally Posted by Anabolic5150

Growth of a muscle occurs during rest and replensihment (eating). You are never giving the muscles long enough to rest and recover so they can grow. This is absolute overkill, and I'm not trying to be an ass, but is not very well thought out.

Yea i know that, but i keep thinking that soreness is a indicator of whether you are ready for the next workout. Dont worry, i am still very new to body building,very open to criticism.

Originally Posted by Work IN Progress

You must have an arm complex. Try training the entire body in the span of a week. If you still feel like you can train everyday doing that then you obviously aren't training hard enough. By the way, what you are doing is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. You don't deserve to be called a bodybuilder. Gheys train arms. Men train everything else.
I recommend that you GTFO now. You're embarrassing the rest of us.

Bro. Chill,dont eat me up yet. Dont assume i only do my arms. I am only posting up my training for my arms because my arms are the concern. I still do my abs 5 times a week,legs and back 2 times a week.

Originally Posted by REDDOG309

I wonder if any of this bicep work is happening in the squat rack?

Lol NO. I am new to body building but not new to common senses.

Originally Posted by blergs.

just because your not sore dosent mean your recoverd!
take 4-7days off BETWEEN working that muscle again! :-)
I basicly go EOD each part one time a week (2 parts per workout mostly)

OH 4-7 days ? I thought about 48 hours was slightly more than enough.. Ok i think i can try that. Thanks.

Originally Posted by TJTJ

When you take the muscle to the level of stress we all do it creates micro tears to the fibers. 24-48hrs I the avg to heal. The healing/resting and nutrition is what causes size. Sometimes we think we're the Terminator but just continue like the Hulk. Over training is like picking at a scab on a cut. you keep tearing the same fibers they wont heal.

My 2cents.

Edit: Soreness doesnt mean jack. I have DOMS. I do legs and i dont get sore until 3-4days later.

Ok. I'll try take rest for a week from now and see what happens. Thanks !

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Wow you don't get sore for 4 days? That's crazy, I don't think I've ever taken more than a day to get sore.

That's what i'm doubtful about.. I pushed myself really hard, and kept going with assistance. It like my muscles were bursting after the workout. But the next day, everything was fine again,i felt like i can do some more,making me feel like i didnt do enough yesterday. I'm doing 75% of my one-rep Max.

Oh I was talking to TJTJ about his DOMS. Don't work your arms out every day and soreness doesn't really mean much. It sounds like you are training way too much, if you are new why don't you try a basic split for a few months. I did great with an upper rest lower rest routine. Don't go to the gym 6 days a week.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Oh I was talking to TJTJ about his DOMS. Don't work your arms out every day and soreness doesn't really mean much. It sounds like you are training way too much, if you are new why don't you try a basic split for a few months. I did great with an upper rest lower rest routine. Don't go to the gym 6 days a week.

Ok, Probably do more research on a better workout routine and then execute it properly.

Speaking as someone broken up from 30 yrs of lifting, don't train stupid. That's overkill. You may be able to get away w/ it for a couple weeks, but eventually you're going to start having problems. And also speaking from experience, problems in your small joints - including wrists, elbows & rotators, never really heal. I started having my first elbow tendonitis in 1992. These days, sometimes I almost drop a 40 lb db trying to curl because it tweaks out.

I just can't tell you how important it is to learn "how" to train intelligently when you are getting started. You can get away w/ a lot of stupid things when you're new & young, but after a while you will start paying the price. And when your weak links, like joints & tendons, are affected, they will hinder you the rest of your life.

Arnie did it 6 days a week.

Jus' sayin'.

Sometimes I do 3 on, 1 off. (on cycle)

Off cycle I do 2 on 1 off.

Listen to your body, and give it the time it needs to grow.

Everyone is different.

Why don't you look into HIT or one of the stickies, keep it simple.

Originally Posted by ihateschoolmt

Why don't you look into HIT or one of the stickies, keep it simple.

x2

Your body needs to become accustom to what you do.

Good things take time.

Keep it simple, work hard, increase reps/sets as you feel you can do it.

If you overkill, you won't enjoy what you're doing.. if you don't enjoy it, you're most likely not going to keep up with it/get the best workout possible.

Again, just my opinion.

i work out 3 days a week, push/pull/legs, and i love it.. my biceps get an ass kicking during pull, and my triceps get it on push, no need to isolate really in my opinion, if you wanna grow you gotta eat and eat and rest

No muscle should be trained every day. More training does not equal more growth. I train 3-4 times a week and on none of those days do i do direct arm work. In fact, it's becoming a running joke the last few years that i only isolate my arms in a workout once a year.

My 2010 arms workout consisted of about 5 types of curl, 3-4 sets each, 8-15 reps. I think in 2011 i'll do some isolation for my triceps and give my biceps a break.

The point is - you don't need it. You don't NEED to curl or do pushdowns to get good guns. My guns are 16.5", so they're not so bad. Put on half an inch this year and it sure as shit wasn't because of my yearly arms workout - it was because i put on about 15lbs bodyweight and did a lot of military, bench, and rowing.