I don't use wide grip anymore since I tore my rotator cuff. I use underhand/reverse grip and use a v-bar and I've actually improved my back width since doing it this way.

Hey, should I use wide and triangle pulldown? in my routine ?
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I agree with Anabolic on this. Wide grip pulldowns actually widen the teres major/minor-part of the rotator cuff, so it can cause issues. I predominantly only do reverse grip and close grip triangle pulldowns.
Dorian himself said to only do underhand grips on pulldowns as they are the only grips to hit lats succesfully in pulldowns.
I do;
wide pullups-warm up
reverse grip pulldowns
close grip pulldowns, then i smash my rows
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Dorian knows his shit. Over on bodybuilding.com he has a WO routine you can pick up.
Sometimes what I'll do with the underhand lat pull downs is start with my arms bend and just focusing on the down motion of my lats not extending my arms fully back up and on the down continuing with an arch like incline row, holding the contracting muscles for a second or 2. When going full range motion the biceps IMO start taking more of the load.
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I use the v-bar, and then I go to this...
and pull the FUCK out of my lats. I use this in place of a wide gripe pull down with a bar because they never hit me right. I just sit my ass on the floor and pull down until my wings burst. The pump is unreal!
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IMO, chins are best. If you cant do several, so what? Do one rep at a time for multiple sets, building each week until you can do more for each set.
On the other hand, in my own experience, when I focused on upping my deadlift to a present pr of 505 for 3, I did no other back width exercises, yet my lats grew to a point where if I measured it, each side grew 3 inches. I don't know how this occurred physiologically, but using deads as a back builder is pretty amazing.
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I like wide grip pullups over wide grip pulldowns but I almost always do close grip on the cables when I do em. Which is 1 or 2 weeks out of the month. 2 types of pulldowns or pullups (wide grip close grip) 2 ttypes of rows (wide grip close grip) (barbell rows, T-Bar Rows, wide grip or close grip low cable row). It's all about hittin every angle to me right now.
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